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  • bsm2
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    • Phil B.
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      #14537
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      Dr. Harvey Risch on Pfizer and gain-of-function research | Just The News

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      • slimslob
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        Originally posted by bsm2
        Yes The Trump Administration botched the US Covid19 response and it cost lives
        Wrong again little asshole. It was you liberals who lied about Hydroxychloroquine who are responsible for more deaths from the virus than anyone else. Worldwide it is one of the 2 most effective treatments.There other one is Ivermectin. Oh wait, that's right, you liberals killed it use in the US as well. Liberals lied, Americans died.

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        • bsm2
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          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by slimslob
          Wrong again little asshole. It was you liberals who lied about Hydroxychloroquine who are responsible for more deaths from the virus than anyone else. Worldwide it is one of the 2 most effective treatments.There other one is Ivermectin. Oh wait, that's right, you liberals killed it use in the US as well. Liberals lied, Americans died.
          Yes The Trump Administration botched the US Covid19 response and it cost lives

          Dude the fake drugs dont work on Covid 19 never did and never will

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          • bsm2
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            As COVID-19 swept across our country, Trump bungled testing, leaving us with persistent shortages and delays even now. And, Trump inexcusably failed to get protective equipment to the heroes on the front lines of this fight, opting to side with corporate lobbyists instead of heeding Vice President Biden's call to fully invoke the Defense Production Act to mobilize our economy to fight the virus.
            • New York Times, 3/28/20
            • New York Times, 7/6/20: "In recent weeks, as cases have surged in many states, the demand for testing has soared, surpassing capacity and creating a new testing crisis."
            • Washington Post, 7/8/20
            • CNN, 7/14/20: "Trump administration's delayed use of 1950s law leads to critical supplies shortages"

            As the crisis mounted, Trump's failure to effectively lead undercut our response to the pandemic at every turn and cost Americans their lives.
            • POLITICO, 3/7/20
            • Washington Post, 4/4/20: "It may never be known how many thousands of deaths, or millions of infections, might have been prevented with a response that was more coherent, urgent and effective. But even now, there are many indications that the administration's handling of the crisis had potentially devastating consequences."
            • NBC News, 3/14/20: "An examination of how the Trump administration responded to the coronavirus outbreak that was first documented in December reveals a story of missed opportunities, mismanagement and a president who resisted the advice of experts urging a more aggressive response."

            Even after months of abject failure on COVID-19, Trump still refuses to take the threat seriously, repeatedly claiming that it will simply "disappear" even as he and his allies attack public health officials and undermine the basic measures we need to control the virus.
            • POLITICO, 8/1/2020: "President Donald Trump publicly rebuked Dr. Anthony Fauci on Saturday, forcefully rejecting the nation's top infectious disease expert's testimony on why the U.S. has experienced a renewed surge in coronavirus cases."


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            • bsm2
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              • bsm2
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                12 ways the Trump administration botched America’s response to Covid-19

                First, the Trump administration failed to adequately acknowledge the existence of the Covid-19 challenge publicly early on as evidenced by the President’s comments about the first Americans to be infected such as “… the 15 within a couple days is going to be down to close to zero …” cases, or “it will go away.” This explicit downplaying of Covid-19 was either an act to overtly spread misinformation or it was a reflection of complacency, but in either case it led to an inadequate Covid-19 response.




                Second, the administration, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in particular, had difficulty developing and rolling out initial testing strategies leading to serious delays in the necessary uptake of testing for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. For weeks, testing in even hard-hit areas was limited to diagnostic tests for hospitalized people or health care workers rather than population-level testing. Diagnostic testing is still too slow in some areas and testing for asymptomatic persons is still insufficient. The US got off to an avoidable slow start in testing, is still catching up, a key administration adviser on Covid-19 is actively arguing against the testing of people who don’t have symptoms, and the President has been known to say, “slow the testing down please.”


                Third, the administration provided some personal protective equipment but failed to make supplies of it for health care workers and schools available at the scale necessary to meet the needs. Without sufficient supplies of the basic equipment needed, it is hard to protect yourself from SARS-CoV-2.


                Fourth, the administration reportedly pressured for FDA Emergency Use Authorizations of treatments such as hydroxychloroquine without sufficient evidence of potential effectiveness, eventually leading to a withdrawal of the hydroxychloroquine EUA, but not before the interest in this one drug diverted massive efforts in the medical, public health and research communities to focus on a drug that ultimately garnered scant evidence of effectiveness in well conducted studies.




                Fifth, even after states like New York showed that physical distancing (in many forms), mask use, avoidance of large gatherings, hand sanitization, staying home when ill, and other basic techniques served to bring down cases, hospitalizations and death rates, the administration encouraged states to abandon such effective strategies even in the face of widespread community transmission (such as in Florida) and if they did not, the President encouraged residents of jurisdictions such as Michigan to “liberate” their state.


                Sixth, the President chose to demonize researchers whose findings did not suit him (such as calling the work of researchers finding no benefit to hydroxychloroquine, an “enemy statement”), thereby putting some scientists in the position of not only defending their science but also their motives for conducting urgent and important research in the first place. Such assaults on science and scientists can lead researchers to think twice about engaging in potentially lifesaving work, and can set back the scientific process such that evidence-based answers to pressing societal challenges are slower in their evolution.


                Seventh, White House Task Force member Dr. Scott Atlas and Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar have met with and embraced proponents of the Great Barrington Declaration. The Declaration proposes to achieve herd immunity (before a vaccine is available) by protecting older persons yet removing most SARS-CoV-2 preventive measures among young people. Although he did not cite the Declaration, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows recently said on CNN that “we are not going to control the pandemic,” a sentiment consistent with the Great Barrington document. This herd immunity approach has been widely criticized by many in the public health community, because by not having in place the necessary preventive precautions, it could yield substantial expansion of Covid-19 cases in the US and induce serious increases in morbidity and mortality.


                Eighth, the President interpreted his personal experience of receiving world-class, life-saving, experimental medical care from a single-source, government run and supported program to be the kind of care that everyone in the US can have (especially as he supports the destruction of the Affordable Care Act, the means to health insurance for millions in the US). Further, based on his experience of medical care privilege, he told the residents of the US not to fear Covid and to not let it dominate their lives … clearly dangerous health care advice for many and especially those without access to the same level of health care he enjoyed.


                Ninth, the President, his administration and his campaign have held or attended events in which they ignored most if not all public health recommendations for Covid-19 prevention. For instance, the first family brazenly took off their masks at the initial presidential debate despite the rules of the Commission on Presidential Debates and the Cleveland Clinic health care experts on site. One is reminded of celebrity Fernando Lamas saying, “it is better to look good than to feel good.” Well, that ironic phrase is not one we utilize in public health.


                Tenth, the devastating disparities of Covid-19 in communities of color are matters of social justice, and yet the President barely seems to notice or acknowledge them. Clearly, to alleviate the suffering from Covid-19 in the US, one must address the injustice of these racial, ethnic and socioeconomic disparities and begin to better build health equity.


                Eleventh, if the administration wanted to address these issues, there would be a comprehensive, evidence-based national Covid-19 strategy, but there is no such national plan at this point. Without a plan in place, there can be no tracking of key metrics, no informed mid-course corrections, and little accountability.






                Twelfth, there are instances when members of the administration are giving out risky information, undermining the American public’s ability to inform and protect itself. Just recently, White House adviser Dr. Scott Atlas tweeted “Masks work? NO” (synergistic with the President’s less than enthusiastic attitude toward mask use), despite substantial evidence to the contrary.


                It is difficult to assess the precise number of deaths, life years lost, and lives disrupted by this collection of errors of commission, omission and complacency, but it is clear that a large number of the over 225,000 lives lost to Covid-19 could have been saved had these errors been avoided with straightforward, evidence-based precautions in place, delivered at the necessary scale, and provided at the right time.


                Going forward, I encourage the administration and all public health decision makers to keep in mind this definition of a public health error, to avoid such serious mistakes, and to accept the responsibility for their errors when they do occur. Just like surgeons go to great lengths to avoid leaving instruments inside of patients, we must avoid errors in public health. With either type of error, the outcomes can be deadly and in public health the devastation can be even more widespread.

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                • bsm2
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                  • bsm2
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                    • bsm2
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                      • bsm2
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                        4. A failure to prevent layoffs of state and local workers

                        In the weeks following the coronavirus outbreak, it became clear to state governments that they would have to increase spending to unanticipated levels. Yet a lack of aid from the federal government forced states and localities, who have much stricter budget requirements than the federal government, to cut payrolls for more than 1 million employees, representing a 5.2 percent drop in the total nonfederal government employment level. Without strong guidelines from the White House, states were forced to fend for themselves, often bidding against one another to provide their frontline health care workers with protective gear. This, coupled with the drop in state and local tax revenue, has led to budget crises across the country that could result in significantly deeper layoffs over the coming months. A recent survey by the National League of Cities illustrates the true scale of this problem, finding that more than 98 percent of cities with populations between 50,000 and 500,000 have reported an anticipated revenue shortfall this year.
                        Because local jurisdictions must balance their budgets or face heavy borrowing costs, most are forced to cut services and purge payrolls, raise taxes, or both. Local governments employ 14.5 million peopleat risk without federal intervention. Despite stateslocalitiesopining
                        In contrast, the governments of other countries have acted swiftly in supplying cash-strapped localities with much-needed aid. The Japanese government, for example, recently announced a 117.1 trillion yen$60 billion over the next 12 months, equivalent to 43 percent of its 2018 GDP. The CARES Act and its $150 billion in funding to state and local governments was a good start, but this represents only 0.7 percent of 2019 U.S. GDP, which is not nearly enough. The Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency Solutions (HEROES) Act, which passed the House with bipartisan support, would provide states, localities, territories, and tribes with a combined total of $1 trillion, or 4.7 percent of 2019 U.S. GDP, over the next two years. This level of support falls more in line with what many international peers have done. Officials in the Trump administration, however, have stated

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                        • bsm2
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                          • bsm2
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                            • bsm2
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                              • BBM
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                                #14550
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                                Quick history for you .
                                Trump got us vaccine record time
                                Democrats saying could not trust vaccine
                                Biden gets elected
                                Lets mandate the vaccine

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