Signs you work for a predatory company

[n25an]

Here are signs that you work for a bad company... I have experienced a lot of these signs...

1. they do not train...
2. they hire to fit
3. employee review is an opportunity for tear down not build up
4. your opinion is little more than toilet tissue
5. your opinion is requested and when given treated as an opportunity to insult you
6. you are micro managed by someone who has no idea what they are doing
7. other departments have more rights than your department
8. other departments dictate how you manage your work space
9. moving goal posts... the standards that you must meet keep changing and never for your own good
10. other employees pull you aside and warn you about what to expect
11. your employer lies about how many people are in the dept
12. your manager lies about your salary
13. your manager lies about any agreements made when you were hired...
14. hr will not make any tax changes requested
15. your employer tries to steal money from your paycheck
16. your employer tries to demean you for asking for mileage, parking and tolls
17. your employer promises to pay mileage, parking and tolls at hire but never pays anything
18. no staff meetings
19. too many staff meetings
20. nepotism
21. bullying by employees
22. bullying by mgmt
23. favoritism
24. racism
25. prejudice
26. colorism
27. general nastiness
28. complicated instructions for simple tasks
29. simple instructions for complicated tasks
30. mgmt solution to a problem is to shout at you
31. mgmt solution to a problem is to tell you the wrong things to do
32. mgmt micro manages you as if you and they are two years old
33. mgmt punishes you for going above and beyond
34. mgmt punishes you for being a team player
35. work place jealousy
36. you are consistently punished for what you have never been informed about...
37. you are consistently informed about meetings, events or functions either late or after they have occured
38. you are not allowed to train
39. manager will literally watch you work
40. manager tells you where to sit... complains about it... you sit somewhere else... they tell you to return to the original spot...
41. mgmt wants to read a book with you...
42. mgmt makes your job super easy by taking away access to resources then blame you for issues that can only be solved due to access to resources
43. mgmt does things to make itself happy but not stuff that employees prefer...
44. mgmt thinks every employee is a super employee
45. mgmt thinks every employee is a moron
46. hr insults you when you request help
47. hr uses their outdoor voice when indoors
48. mgmt not reachable in emergencies
49. hr not reachable in emergencies
50. mgmt ignores you after hearing about emergency that requires their input.
51. sexism

please feel free to add to this list...

[srvctec]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Well, I can't think of anything to add. Side note- I started reading the list, expecting about 10 or 12 total. Holy cow! There are some that hit home, though.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Some of those bring back baaaaaad memories. =^..^=

[Phil B.]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Here are signs that you work for a bad company... I have experienced a lot of these signs...

1. they do not train...
2. they hire to fit
3. employee review is an opportunity for tear down not build up
4. your opinion is little more than toilet tissue
5. your opinion is requested and when given treated as an opportunity to insult you
6. you are micro managed by someone who has no idea what they are doing
7. other departments have more rights than your department
8. other departments dictate how you manage your work space
9. moving goal posts... the standards that you must meet keep changing and never for your own good
10. other employees pull you aside and warn you about what to expect
11. your employer lies about how many people are in the dept
12. your manager lies about your salary
13. your manager lies about any agreements made when you were hired...
14. hr will not make any tax changes requested
15. your employer tries to steal money from your paycheck
16. your employer tries to demean you for asking for mileage, parking and tolls
17. your employer promises to pay mileage, parking and tolls at hire but never pays anything
18. no staff meetings
19. too many staff meetings
20. nepotism
21. bullying by employees
22. bullying by mgmt
23. favoritism
24. racism
25. prejudice
26. colorism
27. general nastiness
28. complicated instructions for simple tasks
29. simple instructions for complicated tasks
30. mgmt solution to a problem is to shout at you
31. mgmt solution to a problem is to tell you the wrong things to do
32. mgmt micro manages you as if you and they are two years old
33. mgmt punishes you for going above and beyond
34. mgmt punishes you for being a team player
35. work place jealousy
36. you are consistently punished for what you have never been informed about...
37. you are consistently informed about meetings, events or functions either late or after they have occured
38. you are not allowed to train
39. manager will literally watch you work
40. manager tells you where to sit... complains about it... you sit somewhere else... they tell you to return to the original spot...
41. mgmt wants to read a book with you...
42. mgmt makes your job super easy by taking away access to resources then blame you for issues that can only be solved due to access to resources
43. mgmt does things to make itself happy but not stuff that employees prefer...
44. mgmt thinks every employee is a super employee
45. mgmt thinks every employee is a moron
46. hr insults you when you request help
47. hr uses their outdoor voice when indoors
48. mgmt not reachable in emergencies
49. hr not reachable in emergencies
50. mgmt ignores you after hearing about emergency that requires their input.
51. sexism

please feel free to add to this list...

WOW Brother you covered just about EVERY point why I left my last employ... he told one friend that remained after I, " I don't know WHY he left" (even tho I went on a rant right there in front of him 'WHY'..) I just might copy this to a letter to hm -=IF=- you don't mind.. I WILL NOT be using your name
**the only thing I would add is " Taking on NEW (shitty) product lines W/O consulting The Service Manager/Only Tech" (ME)

Kudos on the list!

[n25an]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Here are signs that you work for a bad company... I have experienced a lot of these signs...

1. they do not train...
2. they hire to fit
3. employee review is an opportunity for tear down not build up
4. your opinion is little more than toilet tissue
5. your opinion is requested and when given treated as an opportunity to insult you
6. you are micro managed by someone who has no idea what they are doing
7. other departments have more rights than your department
8. other departments dictate how you manage your work space
9. moving goal posts... the standards that you must meet keep changing and never for your own good
10. other employees pull you aside and warn you about what to expect
11. your employer lies about how many people are in the dept
12. your manager lies about your salary
13. your manager lies about any agreements made when you were hired...
14. hr will not make any tax changes requested
15. your employer tries to steal money from your paycheck
16. your employer tries to demean you for asking for mileage, parking and tolls
17. your employer promises to pay mileage, parking and tolls at hire but never pays anything
18. no staff meetings
19. too many staff meetings
20. nepotism
21. bullying by employees
22. bullying by mgmt
23. favoritism
24. racism
25. prejudice
26. colorism
27. general nastiness
28. complicated instructions for simple tasks
29. simple instructions for complicated tasks
30. mgmt solution to a problem is to shout at you
31. mgmt solution to a problem is to tell you the wrong things to do
32. mgmt micro manages you as if you and they are two years old
33. mgmt punishes you for going above and beyond
34. mgmt punishes you for being a team player
35. work place jealousy
36. you are consistently punished for what you have never been informed about...
37. you are consistently informed about meetings, events or functions either late or after they have occured
38. you are not allowed to train
39. manager will literally watch you work
40. manager tells you where to sit... complains about it... you sit somewhere else... they tell you to return to the original spot...
41. mgmt wants to read a book with you...
42. mgmt makes your job super easy by taking away access to resources then blame you for issues that can only be solved due to access to resources
43. mgmt does things to make itself happy but not stuff that employees prefer...
44. mgmt thinks every employee is a super employee
45. mgmt thinks every employee is a moron
46. hr insults you when you request help
47. hr uses their outdoor voice when indoors
48. mgmt not reachable in emergencies
49. hr not reachable in emergencies
50. mgmt ignores you after hearing about emergency that requires their input.
51. sexism

please feel free to add to this list...

a few more...

52. argumentative mgmt
53. mgmt compares you to other employees
54. mgmt complains that you did not do a job good enough... when you exceeded expectations
55. mgmt has department contests that encourage employees to not want to work together as a team
56. mgmt not giving or complaining when you take your legally allowed employee breaks
57. mgmt believes your lunch break is their time meaning they call and want to have meetings when you are eating...
58. mgmt punishes you for coming in early
59. mgmt punishes you for leaving late
60. mgmt treats employees conversations as gossip and make it a fireable offense...
61. mgmt hires you for fulltime and then give you part time hours
62. mgmt smiles when they do something bad to you as if they relish the experience
63. mgmt fires senior staff to make room for you
64. service dept has no one there more than a year and the company is many years old
65. mgmt want you outside the shop but complains about what you are not doing in the shop
66. when you try to focus free time on projects in the shop, mgmt complains about calls that are not being taken outside the shop... active word free time...
67. mgmt makes taking too long on bathroom breaks fireable offense
68. mgmt makes bathroom breaks fireable offense
69. mgmt tells you they are crazy
70. mgmt constantly changing the rules
71. mgmt avoids their customers
72. mgmt lies to customers
73. mgmt argumentative with customers
74. mgmt smuggly tells you how they got rid of other employees and puts particular relish on the ones that took the longest to get out...
75. mgmt openly in the office talk bad about customers when the issue can clearly be seen to be mgmt's fault...
76. mgmt does not supply manuals or support numbers for equipment, services or agreements that they have that require this...
77. other employees treat you like other joe from thor... they don't invest time into getting to know you because they feel you will be gone soon
78. service dept dirty and unkempt even when times are slow
79. employees not showing initiative
80. employees not encouraged to show initiative
81. mgmt calls you for help with problems outside your expertise on a regular basis
82. mgmt complains to you about other employees on your first day
83. mgmt complains to other employees about you on your first day
84. mgmt sets you up to fail
85. mgmt angry when you turn a no win situation into a win win...
86. mgmt writes you up for turning a no win situation into a win win
87. the company and/or management is widely known by others in that field in a bad way...
88. the company and/or mgmt is widely known by others in the field as a byword or epithet...
89. mgmt or company regularly and often mentioned by other employees in the same sentence as some kind of legal action
90. all employees talk bad about the company

[n25an]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

WOW Brother you covered just about EVERY point why I left my last employ... he told one friend that remained after I, " I don't know WHY he left" (even tho I went on a rant right there in front of him 'WHY'..) I just might copy this to a letter to hm -=IF=- you don't mind.. I WILL NOT be using your name
**the only thing I would add is " Taking on NEW (shitty) product lines W/O consulting The Service Manager/Only Tech" (ME)

Kudos on the list!

You are so right...

91. Taking on NEW (shitty) product lines W/O consulting The Service Manager/Only Tech"

[allan]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Yea nice summary.

Worked for KMPDS was the best company you can wish to work for.
Its was the kind of place you want to get your calls done to get back to the office.

Then i got a better offer and did not even done an interview for it. Worst mistake on my career.
They checked 45 of your check boxes! Could not stand the place.
Never ever just bailed on a company with out notice but 2 years into it i just walked in handed back the laptop and vacuum and left.
Told the owner 3 months before i left he needs to find another tech and let me know when he found someone so i could leave.
Never took me serious...

Did not even had a job lined up was so demotivated and broken down by that place.

took a nice 2 month holliday and made a single call to a guy that could use my help.
Now take care of only 20 high volume and production machines and have the freedom to do side jobs.
Pay is not the same but its ridicules to work only 8 hours total a week.

Loosing out on experience but had the freedom to align myself into a new direction.
Not to late in life to become a CAD/CAM and CNC expert.

Thanks Stan you are a champ. Never knew i could be worth that much to someones business.
If a B423 can do a 100K a month and go past 2mil with not to much issues anything is possible.

[allan]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

There is enough work out there to go on your own.
Never knew that i could make up to $200 an hour on labor and parts!
Well do one of those every other week...
Buying and selling toner is my new favorite thing.

[tech28]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Man! Its awesome to be self employed!!! Love it! The freedom, the $, headaches also, but overall, what a great country!!! God bless America! Greatest country in the world!! It is the land of opportunity!

[FrohnB]

[allan]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

Loved the small dealership KMDPS only 8 people took care of 300 or so machine.

They trusted me to get the job done and save where ever.
Had access as a technician to the books! That allowed me to monitor the profit on each machine.
If you care at that level you are super efficient at what you do.

Rock up at the office and check calls, then go make breakfast bacon and eggs for who ever wanted.
Then go pull my own stock and toners from the storeroom.
Go do some calls. Had the freedom to do my own logistics for when and where I would be.
Get back and get onto the PC to do research and training.
Also did the cost accounting in my free time to check how and where we could make some savings.
If the job was done nobody cared what you where up to and would be at home as early at 15h00 some days.

Pulled every trick in the book to keep costs down.
Always had the CPC up to date with new part prices the sheets was modified to include to known yields for parts.
Pushed everything to the limit while keeping awesome costumer relations.
The customers was very loyal and would not even consider upgrading with anybody else.

Every other week we would be on the driving range whacking some balls during office hours.
The manager would get the company credit card every now and again to spoil us a bit.
Company planed holidays where we would burn up the owners built up time shares at the most awesome venues.
Everything we scraped would go towards Friday BBQ's.

Thanks Lucien best guy i have ever worked for and you know i regret leaving big time!

[n25an]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

You are so right...

91. Taking on NEW (shitty) product lines W/O consulting The Service Manager/Only Tech"

92. Ridiculously low wages
93. Staff meetings held in a language unknown to you
94. customers leaving in droves
95. poor reviews on employment review sites
96. your mgr complains about your travel time... even after you prove with mapquest or google that travel time is accurate
97. you would feel relieved if they fired you...
98. you dread going in their on a monday...
99. your job causes you to have a mental breakdown
100. your job causes a heart attack
101. your job gives you an ulcer
102. after a conversation with the mgr, you are so worked up and distracted you get in an accident.
103. you would not be surprised if the company closed down tomorrow...
104. you would not be surprised if someone went postal there
105. you show up to work and the company has closed down and it does not even surprise you...
106. the company hires you as a full time employee and then at tax time you find out you are a contractor and responsible for their and your tax obligations on your taxes
107. mgmt frowns on you taking your full lunch break
108. you are always on guard for the next drama
109. you need the money but if they let you go early from work its a relief...
110. your mgr asks you how you are doing, you tell him you are going through a difficult time, divorce, cancer, pregnancy, death in the family... etc... mgr pulls you aside and fires you...
111. you have to deposit your check quickly for fear the check will bounce if you take too long...

[n25an]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

112. if for any reason you are terminated... your unemployment benefits are denied by company...

[allan]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

If you are a reliable tech you are worth more that they would make you think.
Go get another job somewhere.

[n25an]

Re: Signs you work for a predatory company

If you are a reliable tech you are worth more that they would make you think.
Go get another job somewhere.

I did... but this list kinda just ran away with me...
sometimes in life... you just don't know how much you have put up with and seen... until you write it down...