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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    NARROWING THE RACIAL DIVIDE


    Unemployment during the pandemic has also taken a disproportionate toll on visible minorities. This prompted StatsCan to take the unprecedented step of gathering labour force data by race starting in July, bringing it in line with the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    A new societal focus and acknowledgement of the need for more diversity, equity and inclusion came after the killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man in the U.S. who died at the hands of police.

    Leaders of some country’s biggest employers publicly stated support for the Black Lives Matter movement and vowing to do more to dismantle systemic racism.


    Demand for investigations, restorations and proactive programs related to diversity, equity and inclusion have quadrupled since May. There is now a “deeper level of understanding” of systemic racism for many businesses.

    The events of 2020 were the catalyst for a collective “awakening” leading to optimism that the “positive changes” that many organizations undertook will carry into 2021.

    “A lot of the diversity was at the lower echelons of an organization, the entry-level roles or contract roles that were more temporary than permanent. Conversations have erupted and I don’t think it's going to be a flash in the pan,” she says.

    If this year was one of examination and awakening, next year may be categorized by more intense scrutiny of firms that simply maintain the status quo.

    “If employers just move the shells around for optics, I think they’re going to be held to account,” she says.
    “Down the road there will be significant fallout and lost trust, which is going to further destabilize workplace cultures which have already been ravaged by the pandemic.”
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    • Hansen88
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      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
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      According to Statistics Canada, nearly 40 per cent of workers were doing their jobs remotely at the end of March during the first wave of the pandemic. The vast majority (85 per cent) of those working from home work in finance, insurance or education. , the more likely you are to be able to work remotely. StatsCan estimates suggest that 22.5 per cent of businesses will continue to have at least 10 per cent of their staff still working from home post-pandemic.



      A lot of Mcdonalds in the U S now have kiosks that you can order from.But they are putting these in not because of covid but because of the demand for 15 dollars a hour minimum wage.Workers there say they cant support their family on what they make there. Those jobs are not the kind of jobs to support a family with. They are for a high scoolers first job. Now by their demands for more money Mcdonalds is comming up with ways to eliminate their jobs.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Originally posted by Hansen88
        A lot of Mcdonalds in the U S now have kiosks that you can order from.But they are putting these in not because of covid but because of the demand for 15 dollars a hour minimum wage.Workers there say they cant support their family on what they make there. Those jobs are not the kind of jobs to support a family with. They are for a high scoolers first job. Now by their demands for more money Mcdonalds is comming up with ways to eliminate their jobs.

        I tried to tell these liberals that pushing for $15 per hour minimum wage was gonna push them right out of a job and into the poor house. They never listen.
        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          Originally posted by Hansen88
          A lot of Mcdonalds in the U S now have kiosks that you can order from.But they are putting these in not because of covid but because of the demand for 15 dollars a hour minimum wage.Workers there say they cant support their family on what they make there. Those jobs are not the kind of jobs to support a family with. They are for a high scoolers first job. Now by their demands for more money Mcdonalds is comming up with ways to eliminate their jobs.
          A lot of people grow up with limited educational skills and perhaps where they live has limited employment opportunities. What was originally intended to be a short term "bridge job" to get me to the next job turns into a long term job.

          This partially is why the COVID economy has impacted women and ethnic people harder than other population segments.

          The original reason why McDonald's installed the self order kiosks was to speed up the order entry process not to reduce staff via automation.

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          • Copier Addict
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            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            I tried to tell these liberals that pushing for $15 per hour minimum wage was gonna push them right out of a job and into the poor house. They never listen.

            And to show your support for a lower minimum wage you are volunteering to attempt to live on it? Come on Billy, show your lower minimum wage support. Lol

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Originally posted by copier addict
              And to show your support for a lower minimum wage you are volunteering to attempt to live on it? Come on Billy, show your lower minimum wage support. Lol

              I started working on my own in my mid-20's. Actually, I think I was about 27. Once I realized that I was never gonna make the kind of money that I wanted by working for someone else, I was gone and never looked back.

              I don't think the average liberal employee understands how a business operates. They have no understanding.
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              • Copier Addict
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                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                I started working on my own in my mid-20's. Actually, I think I was about 27. Once I realized that I was never gonna make the kind of money that I wanted by working for someone else, I was gone and never looked back.

                I don't think the average liberal employee understands how a business operates. They have no understanding.

                You seem to be a one trick pony.
                Not every thing is either liberal or conservative. Poverty is an equal opportunity villain.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  You seem to be a one trick pony.
                  Not every thing is either liberal or conservative. Poverty is an equal opportunity villain.

                  Oh, I agree with you there. But it's mainly only liberals that are calling for a $15 an hour minimum wage. That's what I was referring to.

                  Let's face it. Anyone past the age of 25 that's still working at McDonalds has failed at life...generally speaking, for course. There are always exceptions to the rule. Most made bad choices in life and have no one to blame but themselves. And they are the only ones who can improve their situation. That's why liberals piss me off. Y'all trying to convince them that the government is gonna save them. Stop lying to these folks.
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                  • Copier Addict
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                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    Oh, I agree with you there. But it's mainly only liberals that are calling for a $15 an hour minimum wage. That's what I was referring to.

                    Let's face it. Anyone past the age of 25 that's still working at McDonalds has failed at life...generally speaking, for course. There are always exceptions to the rule. Most made bad choices in life and have no one to blame but themselves. And they are the only ones who can improve their situation. That's why liberals piss me off. Y'all trying to convince them that the government is gonna save them. Stop lying to these folks.

                    It has been proven over and over that raising the minimum wage has a positive affect on the economy. When people have more money, they spend more money.
                    Nobody is saying the government should be "saving" people. They should, however, be there when people need support. Government should not be there only to give rich people tax breaks.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      When people have more money, they spend more money.
                      Really? Why $15? Why not $30. That way folks would have a pocket full of money and the economy would really boom. Stop it. Please.
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                      • Copier Addict
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                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        Really? Why $15? Why not $30. That way folks would have a pocket full of money and the economy would really boom. Stop it. Please.

                        Increasing the minimum wage would help, not hurt, the economy

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                        • Hansen88
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                          Flipping hamburgers,or heating them in the microwave is not worth 15 dollars a hour. Mcdonalds might say their new kiosks are to make for faster ordering,for political correctness but the ones by where I live there is very noticeable fewer people working behind the counter. I even have seen where they have a automated drink line for the drive through where it automatically fills the cups. They are trying to come up with every way to get rid of workers.

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            Originally posted by Hansen88
                            Flipping hamburgers,or heating them in the microwave is not worth 15 dollars a hour. Mcdonalds might say their new kiosks are to make for faster ordering,for political correctness but the ones by where I live there is very noticeable fewer people working behind the counter. I even have seen where they have a automated drink line for the drive through where it automatically fills the cups. They are trying to come up with every way to get rid of workers.

                            Corporate greed can not be blamed on a higher minimum wage. Of course self checkouts and self order kiosks are designed to get rid of paid employees, but they would be installed regardless of the minimum wage.

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                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Corporate greed can not be blamed on a higher minimum wage. Of course self checkouts and self order kiosks are designed to get rid of paid employees, but they would be installed regardless of the minimum wage.

                              Cooperate greed cannot be blamed for folks who aren't cutting it in life. That's a convenient excuse and it may make them feel better about themselves but typically I find people are right where they should be in life. Again, there are always exceptions to the rule.

                              The problem with liberals is they make all these promises of free stuff - housing, food, college, medical care, ect. Why work?
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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                It is one dimensional to debate minimum wage rates in the context of only the fast food industry. Many workers in retail, construction, hospitality, maintenance, landscaping, safety, roadwork, agriculture, transportation and countless other industries, including the copier industry get paid minimum wage.

                                Also minimum wage, I think, is set by state and municipal gov'ts and not Federal gov'ts. It is much more expensive to live in big cities than in more rural areas. Many people have limited mobility options and cannot simply relocate to greener pastures.

                                It is certainly clear that the threat of automation will put a lot of repetitive, low skill jobs at risk in increasing numbers. COVID-19 will increase the rate of that adoption. I do not think for example, a housekeeper, working in a hotel, cleaning rooms can be replaced by a machine.

                                It is also clear that many people have to hold multiple minimum wage jobs to earn enough money in a week to maintain their lifestyle. These workers usually arrive at work exhausted, leave exhausted, arrive home and deal with their family responsibilities exhausted.

                                Many people suddenly lose their jobs due to no fault of their own. They still have bills to pay and their credit is maxed out.

                                The COVID economy has been cruel to even very educated, very skilled workers. These people cannot always find the work that they want and are forced to take what they can get.
                                Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 12-22-2020, 01:50 AM.

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