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  • Tricky
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    #136
    Re: The future of work

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy



    Further, A.I. can optimize labor resources and reduce the time involved in determining how best to load a truck,
    Err put the stuff to be delivered first on last not rocket science, is it?

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #137
      Re: The future of work

      Originally posted by skynet
      Err put the stuff to be delivered first on last not rocket science, is it?
      ... but what if the driver is not familiar with the route, has 100s of boxes to deliver and not enough time to figure it out. Then multiply that by 10 trucks everyday out for delivery.

      Result: trucks leave the dock faster and can complete more deliveries per day with less time and km driven wasted = big $ savings.

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      • Tricky
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        #138
        Re: The future of work

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        ... but what if the driver is not familiar with the route, has 100s of boxes to deliver and not enough time to figure it out. Then multiply that by 10 trucks everyday out for delivery.

        Result: trucks leave the dock faster and can complete more deliveries per day with less time and km driven wasted = big $ savings.
        You seem to be promoting a future where these people have no job, if this could work don't you think Amazon haven't already experimented with this.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #139
          Re: The future of work

          Originally posted by skynet
          You seem to be promoting a future where these people have no job, if this could work don't you think Amazon haven't already experimented with this.

          ... regardless of the argument, FedEX UK has already bought 1,000 trucks. It is going to happen no later than 2022. Competitors will be forced to follow as the fleet savings and improved efficiencies will be tremendous. What makes you think delivery truck drivers will loose their jobs?

          GM has created an entire new Division called BrightDrop to manufacture a similar product in Canada.

          Newly ratified deal gives Ontario workers a bigger bite of EV manufacturing. Deliveries to start in late 2021



          There is no turning back to the pre-COVID way of doing things!

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          • Tricky
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            #140
            Re: The future of work

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            What makes you think delivery truck drivers will loose their jobs?

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            If its more efficient you might need fewer drivers.

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              #141
              Re: The future of work

              Originally posted by skynet
              If its more efficient you might need fewer drivers.
              ... in North America, there is a big shortage of drivers.

              I have several customers who own trucking/ transport companies. The shortage is so bad they are asking 80 year old retired drivers to come back to work.

              In Canada, the shortage of drivers can add an extra three days to the delivery of new copiers from the warehouse to the dealer.

              Anyone who wants to be a truck driver has guaranteed long term employment and a high paying future.

              With COVID-19, the future of work caused massive shifts in buying behaviour with many more people buying online. All those goods are usually shipped via truck.

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              • Tricky
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                #142
                Re: The future of work

                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                ... in North America, there is a big shortage of drivers.
                What difference does that make neither of us live there, I am sure the US can take care of itself.

                Regarding the "future of work" do you think an employer has the right to force vaccinations on its employee's at the threat of dismissal?

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                • Phil B.
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                  #143
                  Re: The future of work

                  Originally posted by skynet
                  What difference does that make neither of us live there, I am sure the US can take care of itself.

                  Regarding the "future of work" do you think an employer has the right to force vaccinations on its employee's at the threat of dismissal?
                  i don't feel that is right at all.... kinda like the way they did ACA... either you signed up for it or you had to pay a penitently. All they wanted to do was force private insurance companies out of business. People weren't saving $2,500 .. in fact they had to PAY that or more for the crap insurance. Older males were paying for 'pregnancy insurance'.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #144
                    Re: The future of work

                    Originally posted by skynet
                    What difference does that make neither of us live there, I am sure the US can take care of itself.

                    Regarding the "future of work" do you think an employer has the right to force vaccinations on its employee's at the threat of dismissal?
                    You better check your atlas. The last time I looked Canada was part of North America.

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #145
                      Re: The future of work

                      Originally posted by skynet
                      What difference does that make neither of us live there, I am sure the US can take care of itself.

                      Regarding the "future of work" do you think an employer has the right to force vaccinations on its employee's at the threat of dismissal?
                      I live in Canada. There is a great shortage of local and long distance and cross border drivers here. Drivers are being moved up in the vaccination priorities as they are considered essential service workers.

                      Employers have the absolute right to request that their employees get vaccinated. There may or may not be repercussions should they decline. For example, they may be asked to work from home full time and not come into the office.

                      With unionized labour, requiring vaccination passports become even more difficult to enforce.

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                      • slimslob
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                        #146
                        Re: The future of work

                        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                        ... in North America, there is a big shortage of drivers.

                        I have several customers who own trucking/ transport companies. The shortage is so bad they are asking 80 year old retired drivers to come back to work.

                        In Canada, the shortage of drivers can add an extra three days to the delivery of new copiers from the warehouse to the dealer.

                        Anyone who wants to be a truck driver has guaranteed long term employment and a high paying future.

                        With COVID-19, the future of work caused massive shifts in buying behaviour with many more people buying online. All those goods are usually shipped via truck.
                        That maybe the case in liberal Canada, but not in the US. I know a lot of actual Class A drivers and there is no shortage of drivers, line haul, short haul or delivery. What does exist do to the liberal lock-downs and policies is a shortage of fuel at a reasonable price(many independent drivers have to pay for their own fuel, places where line haul drivers can stop for the night, places where they can get meals. With the number of people doing online shopping to avoid going into stores, delivery services such as UPS Fedex and even USPS are having to lease additional vehicle but are having no trouble find drivers to put into them.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          #147
                          Re: The future of work

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          That maybe the case in liberal Canada, but not in the US. I know a lot of actual Class A drivers and there is no shortage of drivers, line haul, short haul or delivery. What does exist do to the liberal lock-downs and policies is a shortage of fuel at a reasonable price(many independent drivers have to pay for their own fuel, places where line haul drivers can stop for the night, places where they can get meals. With the number of people doing online shopping to avoid going into stores, delivery services such as UPS Fedex and even USPS are having to lease additional vehicle but are having no trouble find drivers to put into them.
                          No shortage of drivers here in NC either. May be true up there but NOT down here


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                          • slimslob
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                            #148
                            Re: The future of work

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            No shortage of drivers here in NC either. May be true up there but NOT down here


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                            And he mentioned the high wages those Canadian companies are offering. No one I know wants them. With Canada's confiscatory tax ratea they would end up actually a lot less than they are now.

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                            • Tricky
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                              #149
                              Re: The future of work

                              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                              I live in Canada. There is a great shortage of local and long distance and cross border drivers here. Drivers are being moved up in the vaccination priorities as they are considered essential service workers.

                              Employers have the absolute right to request that their employees get vaccinated. There may or may not be repercussions should they decline. For example, they may be asked to work from home full time and not come into the office.

                              With unionized labour, requiring vaccination passports become even more difficult to enforce.
                              Thanks for tidying up the original post.
                              One tiny plumbing company in England made the news when it said all employees will be required to be vaccinated. Given the roll-out over here is targeting the elderly first those employees might be waiting months. It may have been more of a pr stunt than anything else.
                              A significant amount of London's healthcare workers have refused the vaccine, but they are under unionized labor and have supporters.

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #150
                                Re: The future of work

                                I think the pandemic has created a new breed of lazy losers.


                                In the article below many people were interviewed and they don't want things to go back to normal because they like working from their home and many are simply germ freaks. But most just don't want to go back to the office. These people are born losers.


                                See article below:



                                Covid: Anxiety about "return to normal" after pandemic





                                “I would hate to go back to work five days a week and lose that,” Ferguson said. “I’m just nervous about not being able to maintain those positive changes.”


                                Natalie Bartels in San Diego finds herself a similar situation. Bartels has been sober since she decided to partake in “dry January,” a practice where people abstain from alcohol for the first month of the year.


                                “I’m a person who’s all or nothing, and I decided it was just going to be nothing,” she said. “For my own health reasons and feeling better about being able to control the choices that I’m making.”


                                Bartels said the lack of dinners and parties during the pandemic has helped her maintain sobriety. But as re-openings draw nearer, Bartels said she is not looking forward to the expectation that folks will want to let loose.


                                “I’m also dreading the stereotypes that are around people not drinking,” Bartels said. “I’ve experienced only a sliver so far and on a larger scale it’ll be frustrating to explain to people why I don’t want to just grab drinks or party like we once did.”
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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