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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    • Dec 2009
    • 8104

    #14086
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by davidmtupper
    No, it would merely kick the can down the road, making the pain worse when the bill finally gets paid (or written off). That's what happens every single time the debt ceiling is reached, it's no longer urgent and so gets ignored, never fixed as it should be.
    .. this Republican man made crisis could easily be avoided by simply appreeing to increase the debt limit and allow America to fulill it's constitutional promise to pay it's bills.

    It is a dangerous game of political brinkmanship the Republicans are playing with real world impacts beginnng to happen already as industries begin to fortify against this potential financial calamity.

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    • bsm2
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      • Feb 2008
      • 29431

      #14087
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill


      Biden delivering on 2020 promises makes for a strong 2024 pitch

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      • Phil B.
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        • Jul 2016
        • 22798

        #14088
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        The White House's secret message to Democrats suggests who actually won the debt ceiling negotiation - TheBlaze

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        • bsm2
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          • Feb 2008
          • 29431

          #14089
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Joe Biden does it again Winning

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          • bsm2
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            • 29431

            #14090
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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            • bsm2
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              #14091
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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              • Phil B.
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                • Jul 2016
                • 22798

                #14092
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Watch: WH Spox Left Speechless by Poll Showing What a Majority of Americans Believe About Biden

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                • Phil B.
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                  • Jul 2016
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                  #14093
                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Breaking Report: FBI Confirms Existence of Damning Joe Biden Document

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    • Dec 2009
                    • 8104

                    #14094
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    52 House Democrats saves House Republicans from their own MAGA exremists by adding their vote to get the debt limit suspended by two years.

                    A master class in political leadership from President Joe Biden and Democratic House Leader Hakeem Jeffries.


                    These are the 29 Republicans who voted "no" that would have crashed the US economy
                    1. Andrew Clyde
                    2. Matt Gaetz ... suspected sex offender
                    3. Andy Biggs
                    4. Chip Roy ....
                    5. Eli Crane
                    6. Bob Good
                    7. Clay Higgins
                    8. Josh Brecheen
                    9. Paul Gosar ... definite crazy man
                    10. Tim Burchett
                    11. Bill Posey
                    12. Ken Buck
                    13. Matt Rosendale
                    14. Dan Bishop
                    15. Anna Pauline Luna
                    16. Lauren Boebert ...pint sized but with giant stupid head
                    17. Victoria Spartz
                    18. Scott Perry
                    19. Mary Miller
                    20. Keith Self
                    21. Diana Harshbarger
                    22. Tom Tiffany
                    23. Eric Burlison
                    24. Michael Cloud
                    25. Barry Moore
                    26. Ben Cline
                    27. Morgan Griffith
                    28. Ralph Norman
                    29. Andy Harris

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                    • bsm2
                      IT Manager

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                      • Feb 2008
                      • 29431

                      #14095
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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                      • bsm2
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 29431

                        #14096
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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                        • davidmtupper
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                          • Jul 2021
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                          #14097
                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                          .. this Republican man made crisis could easily be avoided by simply appreeing to increase the debt limit and allow America to fulill it's constitutional promise to pay it's bills.

                          It is a dangerous game of political brinkmanship the Republicans are playing with real world impacts beginnng to happen already as industries begin to fortify against this potential financial calamity.
                          So when do you, or anyone, propose the problem get fixed? Raising the debt ceiling effectively means there is no budgetary restraint, spend what you want, the next several generations might pay for it. The fix for this will be VERY painful, both in the US and abroad, but it needs to happen in a planned fashion or it will surely happen in a way that makes it much worse.

                          IMHO, we (the US) need to stop sending money to other countries unless and until we get our own problems under control, we need to enforce the borders to keep the illegal immigration down as much as possible (legal immigration is fine, unlimited illegals coming over is not) and we need to enforce a budget on the federal government, as is done on state governments (I believe all states have a balanced budget law). The federal government needs to be reduced in size and scope and as much of those responsibilities (privileges, really, if you read and UNDERSTAND the constitution, the federal government is intended to be very limited) returned to the states as possible.

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                          • bsm2
                            IT Manager

                            25,000+ Posts
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 29431

                            #14098
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by davidmtupper
                            So when do you, or anyone, propose the problem get fixed? Raising the debt ceiling effectively means there is no budgetary restraint, spend what you want, the next several generations might pay for it. The fix for this will be VERY painful, both in the US and abroad, but it needs to happen in a planned fashion or it will surely happen in a way that makes it much worse.

                            IMHO, we (the US) need to stop sending money to other countries unless and until we get our own problems under control, we need to enforce the borders to keep the illegal immigration down as much as possible (legal immigration is fine, unlimited illegals coming over is not) and we need to enforce a budget on the federal government, as is done on state governments (I believe all states have a balanced budget law). The federal government needs to be reduced in size and scope and as much of those responsibilities (privileges, really, if you read and UNDERSTAND the constitution, the federal government is intended to be very limited) returned to the states as possible.
                            Unfortunately you don't understand the debt is for what we IE Congress has already approved.

                            As far all the BS is just that.

                            BTW apparently you didn't give a shit with 2 Trillion dollars of lost of tax give aways to the Rich with the Trump Tax cuts with Zero spending cuts

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                            • davidmtupper
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                              • Jul 2021
                              • 326

                              #14099
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by bsm2
                              Unfortunately you don't understand the debt is for what we IE Congress has already approved.

                              As far all the BS is just that.

                              BTW apparently you didn't give a shit with 2 Trillion dollars of lost of tax give aways to the Rich with the Trump Tax cuts with Zero spending cuts
                              Believe me, I understand that the debt was accumulated under both parties, though you won't admit to any mis-spending by the left. It doesn't change the fact that it needs to be fixed, and continually raising the debt ceiling does nothing to address that. Sending billions overseas, often to countries that don't like us, is insane when we have this much debt, it needs to stop NOW. The government is too large and unaccountable to the people, that also needs to be fixed. I'm open to any proposition you might have, but please make it realistic.

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                              • Phil B.
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                                • Jul 2016
                                • 22798

                                #14100
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                After 71 Republicans Defy Speaker McCarthy - Democrats Turn Around and Do the 'Unthinkable'

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