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  • Phil B.
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    #436
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by slimslob
    Actually that $148 is the cost of Medicare Part B. If you are receiving Part B through a private policy then the SSA will refund the Part B after they receive confirmation each month. The proper amount for 2021 is $163.40. Before signing up with one of those companies you see on TV constantly, talk to a local independent agent. Preferably one who is already on Medicare.
    I did state that was supplemental insurance that afforded those benefits.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #437
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      and if you think about it 1,390$ is a JOKE if you take into account:

      a mortgage

      the increasing cost of electricity

      gas ( both types )

      now that Biden has removed Trump's deal on Insulin there's that increase.

      food

      other household expenses.

      WE paid into the system our whole working lives.. Congress has been dipping into that coffer for almost the entire time I've been alive. I feel sorry for the ones that have to depend on the Gov't to support them in their latter years.

      That's why I encourage young folks to:

      buy a house

      build their portfolio

      invest in HANDS ON precious metals

      buy real estate

      stay healthy and alert to changing times

      clothing
      So, depending on how long one lives most people will collect more than they contribute, by a long shot. Sounds a lot like socialism to me.

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      • slimslob
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        #438
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by copier addict
        So, depending on how long one lives most people will collect more than they contribute, by a long shot. Sounds a lot like socialism to me.
        But nowhere near what they would have earned had they invested the same amount into a personal retirement fund or even a government bond fund.

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        • bsm2
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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #440
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by copier addict
            So, depending on how long one lives most people will collect more than they contribute, by a long shot. Sounds a lot like socialism to me.

            You finally got something right.


            Now for the rest of the story:



            According to the 2020 annual report of the Social Security Board of Trustees, the surplus in the trust funds that disburse retirement, disability and other Social Security benefits will be depleted by 2035.

            America's top social program is facing a $16.8 trillion black hole



            Before answering, let's take a closer look at some of the figures and trends that are perpetuating the idea that America's top social program is doomed.
            Every year for the past eight decades, the Social Security Board of Trustees has released a report analyzing the short-term (10-year) and long-term (75-year) outlook for the program. Since 1985, the Trustees have cautioned that long-term revenue collection wouldn't support outlays. In plainer English, the program would be facing a funding obligation shortfall.

            In the 2020 report, the Board of Trustees projected that the program will completely exhaust its $2.9 trillion in asset reserves by 2035. These asset reserves are Social Security's net cash surpluses built up since inception. The program hasn't had an annual net cash outflow occur since 1982, but the Trustees are forecasting one in 2021 (and every year through 2035).
            What's more, the program is facing an estimated $16.8 trillion cash shortfall between 2035 and 2094. For context, that's up $2.9 trillion from the 2019 report and $5.7 trillion since 2015. The longer lawmakers wait to resolve Social Security's financial shortcomings, the costlier the fix is becoming.
            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            • bsm2
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              • BillyCarpenter
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                Reported for propaganda and disinformation.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • bsm2
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                  • Phil B.
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                    #444
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Lincoln Project has been disgraced NOT only sexual harrassment/misconduct but for false reporting, and fabrication of the facts.
                    Do you want to quote VOX or Mother Earth News next?

                    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                    • bsm2
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                      • Copier Addict
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                        #446
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        You finally got something right.


                        Now for the rest of the story:



                        According to the 2020 annual report of the Social Security Board of Trustees, the surplus in the trust funds that disburse retirement, disability and other Social Security benefits will be depleted by 2035.

                        America's top social program is facing a $16.8 trillion black hole



                        Before answering, let's take a closer look at some of the figures and trends that are perpetuating the idea that America's top social program is doomed.
                        Every year for the past eight decades, the Social Security Board of Trustees has released a report analyzing the short-term (10-year) and long-term (75-year) outlook for the program. Since 1985, the Trustees have cautioned that long-term revenue collection wouldn't support outlays. In plainer English, the program would be facing a funding obligation shortfall.

                        In the 2020 report, the Board of Trustees projected that the program will completely exhaust its $2.9 trillion in asset reserves by 2035. These asset reserves are Social Security's net cash surpluses built up since inception. The program hasn't had an annual net cash outflow occur since 1982, but the Trustees are forecasting one in 2021 (and every year through 2035).
                        What's more, the program is facing an estimated $16.8 trillion cash shortfall between 2035 and 2094. For context, that's up $2.9 trillion from the 2019 report and $5.7 trillion since 2015. The longer lawmakers wait to resolve Social Security's financial shortcomings, the costlier the fix is becoming.
                        I'll bet if all the people who are afraid of social democracy refused to collect it social security would be fine for much longer.
                        What do ya think?

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          I'll bet if all the people who are afraid of social democracy refused to collect it social security would be fine for much longer.
                          What do ya think?

                          I think you're right because the problem with socialism is that sooner or later the socialists run out of other people's money and someone isn't gonna get paid whether voluntarily or via government's inability to pay due to lack of funds. But the liberal utopia sounds good on paper.


                          BTW: A 2nd woman has accused Cuomo of sexual harassment? Do you have any thoughts on that? Or is this another that you're gonna sit out?
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            I think you're right because the problem with socialism is that sooner or later the socialists run out of other people's money and someone isn't gonna get paid whether voluntarily or via government's inability to pay due to lack of funds. But the liberal utopia sounds good on paper.


                            BTW: A 2nd woman has accused Cuomo of sexual harassment? Do you have any thoughts on that? Or is this another that you're gonna sit out?
                            Well, if he did it then he should face the consequences. It seems to be a partisan thing with you, but not with me. You think it's a big "gotcha" but it isn't.
                            By the way, generally if you can get ALL the people to pay their taxes, not just the poor and middle class, social democracy works just fine.

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #449
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Well, if he did it then he should face the consequences. It seems to be a partisan thing with you, but not with me. You think it's a big "gotcha" but it isn't.
                              By the way, generally if you can get ALL the people to pay their taxes, not just the poor and middle class, social democracy works just fine.


                              The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $616 billion, or 38.5 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $479 billion, or 29.9 percent of all income taxes.


                              If Cuomo did it? You don't believe the 2 women?
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                Earlier this week, the Sexual Harassment Working Group had called for in investigation of the governor after another former staffer, Lindsey Boylan, accused him






                                the group tweeted hours after Boylan came forward.

                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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