The Shining City Upon a Hill

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[Phil B.]

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We all knew they were fakes. Hypocrites one and all.


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Constitutional rights are not government-given
by Randy Moll | July 3, 2019 at 5:00 a.m.



People often speak of their Constitutional rights but sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the rights protected by the Bill of Rights -- such as the freedom of religion; freedom of speech and of the press; the right "to keep and bear arms"; the right "to be secure" in our "persons, houses, papers and effects" -- are given to us by our government. But a careful reading of the Constitution, as well as the Declaration of Independence, makes clear that these rights, as well as others not enumerated, are given to us by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was adopted to preserve those God-given rights from the encroachment of government.


For example, the First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The amendment does not give to us the right to believe and worship as we see fit, to speak freely our thoughts and opinions even if they are contrary to government policy, to publish news and information freely and without fear of government reprisal, to assemble peaceably or to petition the government. It assumes these rights are already ours and prohibits the government from doing anything to infringe upon those rights.


The Declaration of Independence couldn't be more clear on the source of our rights and the action to be taken when governments infringe upon them: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. -- That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed -- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."


Notice who gives us our rights: God, our Creator. They are "unalienable." Governments cannot and should not try to take them away. What is the purpose of government? To protect these rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What right do the people have when a form of government becomes destructive of its God-given duty to protect God-given rights? To alter or abolish it and form a new government to effect our safety and happiness.


Note also that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is not government given. It is God-given, and government is prohibited from infringing upon this right. People have the right, from their Creator, to possess and use weapons to defend themselves against those who would unjustly take from them their lives, their property or their freedoms. And that includes governments which abuse their powers and take from the people their lives, their property or their freedoms.


The "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" is not granted us by the Constitution; it is protected by the Constitution and "shall not be violated." It is because God has given to us these rights, that government infringement is limited to the use of sworn probable-cause warrants, and government may only search in the specific place and only for the specific person or things to be seized.


And, are the rights listed in the Bill of Rights our only God-given rights? Not at all! These are specifically listed because they are rights upon which governments have often infringed throughout history and rights of the colonists upon which the British had frequently infringed.


My reason for pointing out this distinction? Yes, we all have Constitutional rights; but they are not granted to us by the Constitution; they are guaranteed to us and protected by the Constitution.


The Bill of Rights was not adopted to give us certain rights. It was adopted as a protection to limit government and to keep our government from infringing upon our God-given rights.


Had the government given us our rights, government could -- by legislation, executive order, judicial decision or Constitution amendment -- take them away. But since our rights are God-given and unalienable, government has no authority to take them away or infringe upon them. And when governments do, the people have a right to alter and abolish such governments and institute a new form of government which will protect and defend the God-given rights of the people.

I am almost certain that "God" isn't in the rights granting business. He/she likely has better things to do. All you have is a bunch of men claiming God gave these rights.

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I am almost certain that "God" isn't in the rights granting business. He/she likely has better things to do. All you have is a bunch of men claiming God gave these rights.

I'm sorry to say that you lack the intellect to understand what the framers of the constitution were implying. What they are saying is that man is born with certain rights and that they weren't given to him by man. They used the word "creator". That can be anyone that you want it to be, or no one at all. The point is that we are born with rights...they aren't given.

The constitution doesn't grant any rights, it was written to protect us from the government taking those rights that we were born with.



I'm sure that I'm wasting my breath. Carry on.

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I'm sorry to say that you lack the intellect to understand what the framers of the constitution were implying. What they are saying is that man is born with certain rights and that they weren't given to him by man. They used the word "creator". That can be anyone that you want it to be, or no one at all. The point is that we are born with rights...they aren't given.

The constitution doesn't grant any rights, it was written to protect us from the government taking those rights that we were born with.



I'm sure that I'm wasting my breath. Carry on.

... the extreme interpretation of those "rights" is why the USA has the world's worst gun violence with at least 10 mass shootings this past weekend.

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I'm sorry to say that you lack the intellect to understand what the framers of the constitution were implying. What they are saying is that man is born with certain rights and that they weren't given to him by man. They used the word "creator". That can be anyone that you want it to be, or no one at all. The point is that we are born with rights...they aren't given.

The constitution doesn't grant any rights, it was written to protect us from the government taking those rights that we were born with.



I'm sure that I'm wasting my breath. Carry on.

Thanks for the civics lesson, but I was mainly commenting on Phil's statement that possessing guns was a God given right. The 2nd amendment was added after the creation of the constitution, so it was a right given by men, not God/creator.

[Phil B.]

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Thanks for the civics lesson, but I was mainly commenting on Phil's statement that possessing guns was a God given right. The 2nd amendment was added after the creation of the constitution, so it was a right given by men, not God/creator.

the first 10 amendments were in the original Constitution. 2nd amendment was right after free speech. That amendment has/is been(being) trampled on every day. pick a topic....

god given right's... those come from being a Christian and from the word given down

Luke 22:36

#3 "and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Again, whether metaphorical or literal, things were becoming dangerous. We can at least assume that Jesus does not call us to total pacifism at all costs. In a moment they would point out that they had two swords already.

now in today's time the sword is a weapon staying current with the times .. a gun

just like a piece of paper .. pen ... envelope could be compared to email

the 'new paper' has been replaced with the internet.

Biden's push on 'assault weapons' and he uses the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban as reducing the assault weapons death.. nope stayed at the same count.

a fully trained and funded militia .. IMHO EVERY state should have 2-3 squads for each designated region. (NC has 5 regions)

The NCUPIII% group ( not a militia ) that was mainly a support/emergency/community-vet help center. We held cook outs for the homeless/vets... clothing drives.. helped with vets home repairs ... provided transportation to VA hospitals .. and yes basic/advanced/trauma first aid.. and practice shooting skills
we helped in several natural disasters .... search n rescue ... and countless clearing trees that have blocked roads ... shoveling snow for those that can't.

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the first 10 amendments were in the original Constitution. 2nd amendment was right after free speech. That amendment has/is been(being) trampled on every day. pick a topic....

god given right's... those come from being a Christian and from the word given down

Luke 22:36

#3 "and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Again, whether metaphorical or literal, things were becoming dangerous. We can at least assume that Jesus does not call us to total pacifism at all costs. In a moment they would point out that they had two swords already.

now in today's the sword is a weapon staying current with the times .. a gun

just like a piece of paper .. pen ... envelope could be compared to email

the 'newpaper' has been replaced with the internet.

Biden's push on 'assault weapons' and he uses the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban as reducing the assault weapons death.. nope stayed at the same count.

a fully trained and funded militia .. IMHO EVERY state should have 2-3 squads for each designated region.

The NCUPIII% group that was mainly a support/emergency/community-vet help center. We held cook outs for the homeless/vets... clothing drives.. helped with vets home repairs ... provided transportation to VA hospitals .. and yes basic/advanced/trauma first aid.. and practice shooting skills
we helped in several natural disasters .... search n rescue ... and countless clearing trees that have blocked roads ... shoveling snow for those that can't.

... so says the self proclaimed local armed militia group leader, a little (lot) biased.

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Military reject NUT JOB

Exactly what the FBI is looking at

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the first 10 amendments were in the original Constitution. 2nd amendment was right after free speech. That amendment has/is been(being) trampled on every day. pick a topic....

god given right's... those come from being a Christian and from the word given down

Luke 22:36

#3 "and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Again, whether metaphorical or literal, things were becoming dangerous. We can at least assume that Jesus does not call us to total pacifism at all costs. In a moment they would point out that they had two swords already.

now in today's time the sword is a weapon staying current with the times .. a gun

just like a piece of paper .. pen ... envelope could be compared to email

the 'new paper' has been replaced with the internet.

Biden's push on 'assault weapons' and he uses the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban as reducing the assault weapons death.. nope stayed at the same count.

a fully trained and funded militia .. IMHO EVERY state should have 2-3 squads for each designated region. (NC has 5 regions)

The NCUPIII% group ( not a militia ) that was mainly a support/emergency/community-vet help center. We held cook outs for the homeless/vets... clothing drives.. helped with vets home repairs ... provided transportation to VA hospitals .. and yes basic/advanced/trauma first aid.. and practice shooting skills
we helped in several natural disasters .... search n rescue ... and countless clearing trees that have blocked roads ... shoveling snow for those that can't.

And I'm guessing it wasn't amended by God/creator.

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.... after four years of the Republican party and the ex-President doing nothing on healthcare except make medical corporations richer.