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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #3886
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    I'm curious if you ever place blame on Biden?

    There's runaway inflation.
    High gas prices. (Biden just asked OPEC to pump more oil after cutting our supply)
    Surrender to the Taliban
    Extreme rise in crime across the country.

    Those are just the ones that popped in my head. Do you place blame on Biden for any?
    ... run away inflation is caused by COVID disrupting global logistics disrupting the economy. Are you trying to blame President Biden for rising prices in the copier/ printer business?
    ... high gas prices. Prices always rise in the summer plus US prices are too low anyway. Prices are way higher everywhere elsewhere in the world.
    ... only the Afghan army and gov't surrendered to the Taliban. The US gov't ended it's mission as stated and promised.
    ... the only extreme rise in crime are the one's sensationalized by the media.

    President Biden is still trying to deal with the problems caused by the ex President and the flunky media that supported him for corporate profit.

    Overall, the economy is up and unemployment is down in the midst of a growing COVID-19D pandemic made worse solely by the unvaccinated.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #3887
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      PS -

      It's interesting to me that Biden is getting killed by the liberal press over his handling of Afghanistan. I didn't think that they had it in them but they are killing him. So are other world leaders. This has badly damaged Biden.

      Maybe he should have left the troops there a little longer. It may have helped, it may not have. Eventually the buck HAS to stop at the Afghan government and people. If you just lie down and let the Taliban run roughshod through your country aren't you at least a little to blame??
      We have been there for 2 decades holding the line. In just a week after leaving the Taliban have the entire country. I find it difficult to lay the blame on one person.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        #3888
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        PS -

        It's interesting to me that Biden is getting killed by the liberal press over his handling of Afghanistan. I didn't think that they had it in them but they are killing him. So are other world leaders. This has badly damaged Biden.
        ... the liberal media is saying there was never going to be a nice, clean way out of Afghanistan. Yes, it is disappointing that after 20 years, many casualties and two trillion dollars that a better outcome did not occur. What exactly do you think the ex President would have done better?

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #3889
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
          ... the liberal media is saying there was never going to be a nice, clean way out of Afghanistan. Yes, it is disappointing that after 20 years, many casualties and two trillion dollars that a better outcome did not occur. What exactly do you think the ex President would have done better?

          The liberal media is saying MUCH more than that. Here's an example from Politico:




          Joe is getting smashed by the liberal media. This is a serious problem for him whether you believe it or not.
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            #3890
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            More from the Politico Article:






            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              #3891
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              The liberal media is saying MUCH more than that. Here's an example from Politico:






              Joe is getting smashed by the liberal media. This is a serious problem for him whether you believe it or not.

              It appears the no one is stopping these European leaders from sending in their troops.

              I'm not defending Biden. I'm just saying there is nothing stopping them from continuing the war. Right?

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                #3892
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                Originally posted by copier addict
                It appears the no one is stopping these European leaders from sending in their troops.

                I'm not defending Biden. I'm just saying there is nothing stopping them from continuing the war. Right?


                You won't hear me defend the European socialists. They've taken advantage for our kindness for far too long. With that said, Joe has badly damaged himself at home and abroad.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  #3893
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                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  You want hear me defend the European socialists. They've taken advantage for our kindness for far too long. With that said, Joe has badly damaged himself at home and abroad.

                  If you were honest, in your world Biden could save a kitten from a tree and you would still complain about it somehow.

                  I'm curious, do you believe the war in Afghanistan was winnable? What should have been done differently? How many more years should the troops been left there?

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                    #3894
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    The liberal media is saying MUCH more than that. Here's an example from Politico:






                    Joe is getting smashed by the liberal media. This is a serious problem for him whether you believe it or not.
                    ... yes, questions are being asked. Yes, Afghanistan is not ending well but it has only been three days. The criticisms will soon stabilize. Right now today there is a truce between the US and the Taliban. No shots have been fired. Evacuations from Kabul airport are occuring 24/7 in an orderly, peaceful manner.

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                      #3895
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                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      If you were honest, in your world Biden could save a kitten from a tree and you would still complain about it somehow.

                      I'm curious, do you believe the war in Afghanistan was winnable? What should have been done differently? How many more years should the troops been left there?

                      If we're being honest, I told you from the beginning that pain is coming. It's here. And it's here in many different forms:

                      1. Inflation
                      2. High gas prices
                      3. Crime wave.
                      4. Al Queda is free to plan another 911 attack from Afghanistan.



                      Blame Biden. Blame the kitten in a tree. But this is about as bad as it gets.
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        #3896
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by copier addict

                        I'm curious, do you believe the war in Afghanistan was winnable? What should have been done differently? How many more years should the troops been left there?
                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        If we're being honest, I told you from the beginning that pain is coming. It's here. And it's here in many different forms:

                        1. Inflation
                        2. High gas prices
                        3. Crime wave.
                        4. Al Queda is free to plan another 911 attack from Afghanistan.



                        Blame Biden. Blame the kitten in a tree. But this is about as bad as it gets.

                        OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!! Again. LOL

                        How many times is that now Billy? Hahaha

                        I'm curious, do you believe the war in Afghanistan was winnable? What should have been done differently? How many more years should the troops been left there?

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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by copier addict

                          I'm curious, do you believe the war in Afghanistan was winnable? What should have been done differently? How many more years should the troops been left there?

                          They didn't elect me to make those decisions. The best I can tell is that the town drunk couldn't have handled it any worse.


                          Don't forget about the other prediction that I made: The rise of ISIS under Joe Biden. That's next.
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            #3898
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            They didn't elect me to make those decisions. The best I can tell is that the town drunk couldn't have handled it any worse.


                            Don't forget about the other prediction that I made: The rise of ISIS under Joe Biden. That's next.

                            Okay, I get it.
                            It's easy to criticize, not so easy to suggest an alternative.

                            Trump was going to remove the troops as well, would you have criticized him so enthusiastically? Again, I'm curious. The result would have been exactly the same.

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                              #3899
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Okay, I get it.
                              It's easy to criticize, not so easy to suggest an alternative.

                              Trump was going to remove the troops as well, would you have criticized him so enthusiastically? Again, I'm curious. The result would have been exactly the same.


                              Inflation, crime, the Taliban, covid overwhelming hospitals, ect., ect....is all happening under Biden's watch. You place no blame on Biden, or very little, and I place a lot of blame on him. In any event, the House and Senate are looking good for republicans at the moment
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                                #3900
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Inflation, crime, the Taliban, covid overwhelming hospitals, ect., ect....is all happening under Biden's watch. You place no blame on Biden, or very little, and I place a lot of blame on him. In any event, the House and Senate are looking good for republicans at the moment

                                I figured that when you came back to the political forums you would have changed your discussion style. I was wrong. Deflection and hyperbole as usual.
                                Can't say I'm not a little disappointed.

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