The Shining City Upon a Hill

[Copier Addict]

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All of the drivel that you're type is just a feeble attempt to evade the question: When does life begin?

I know you're much too proud to answer that question and have a real debate. That's fine. But you need to think about it because you told me that you feel empathy for other people. I hope that includes the baby that's living in the womb. It's not just a lump of cells at a certain point. It doesn't need to stick it's head outside of the birth canal to be a living person. You need to think about it instead of just supporting all-access abortion because that's what you grew up believing.


When does life begin is the question that is before the supreme court.

You seem to have this belief that just because I think a woman should have the choice that somehow I'm pro abortion. It's just not the case.

[BillyCarpenter]

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You seem to have this belief that just because I think a woman should have the choice that somehow I'm pro abortion. It's just not the case.

In the big picture, I don't really care if you're pro or anti abortion. I want you to answer the question as to when life begins.


Roe v. Wade was decided on when life begins....or the point in time of viability. You can't just pass or uphold laws because that's what you want. It has to have a basis in something. Do we really want to let a woman "choose" to kill a living, healthy, unborn baby? I don't think she has that right. I don't think it's a right at all. Crazy shit, huh?

[Phil B.]

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In the big picture, I don't really care if you're pro or anti abortion. I want you to answer the question as to when life begins.


Roe v. Wade was decided on when life begins....or the point in time of viability. You can't just pass or uphold laws because that's what you want. It has to have a basis in something. Do we really want to let a woman "choose" to kill a living, healthy, unborn baby? I don't think she has that right. I don't think it's a right at all. Crazy shit, huh?

If the mother is attacked, and during the attack both the mother and baby ( still in the womb ) are killed the attacker ( if in custody ) will face 2 murder charges.
But if the mother wants to abort the baby, she is given praise.
That just proves how screwed up the morality in the country has become.
#BabiesLivesMatter

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[slimslob]

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Deflection and insults. Right on queue.
You seem to have this belief that just because I think a woman should have the choice that somehow I'm pro abortion. It's just not the case.

You are the expert at deflection and insults. That's all you ever seem to do.

[Copier Addict]

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In the big picture, I don't really care if you're pro or anti abortion. I want you to answer the question as to when life begins.


Roe v. Wade was decided on when life begins....or the point in time of viability. You can't just pass or uphold laws because that's what you want. It has to have a basis in something. Do we really want to let a woman "choose" to kill a living, healthy, unborn baby? I don't think she has that right. I don't think it's a right at all. Crazy shit, huh?

In the big picture I really don't care what you want. And if you were to be truthful you would admit that it really wouldn't matter what answer I gave. All you want is to throw out that insult you are holding onto. You know. You want to call me a scumbag again. Or a sick baby killer. So I give you permission to call me whatever you want. You even have my permission to throw out all the homophobic slurs you want. So have at it.

[Copier Addict]

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You are the expert at deflection and insults. That's all you ever seem to do.

Thanks for your input Slim. It's much appreciated. Even if it is misguided

[slimslob]

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[SalesServiceGuy]

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... price increase are happening across the world due to supply chain dislocations caused by COVID. No President, no Democrat, no Republican, no politician can manage their economy to escape these increases.

... where did the data in your graph come from?

It seems to depict only the most extreme ranges to make a political point. Gasoline prices have fallen 10% in the USA in the last two weeks.

US consumers enjoy the lowest price for gasoline among the top G7 countries.

Around next spring when supply and demand are expected to come back into balance prices should begin to recede.

Some economic powerhouses like Amazon that control their entire supply chain have been able to hold their prices. Amazon has their own ships, they build their own shipping containers, they have a fleet of 85 freight aircraft, they have their own distribution centers from which they deliver their goods in their own trucks on time because of great data analytics help them to minimize price increases.

[BillyCarpenter]

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In the big picture I really don't care what you want. And if you were to be truthful you would admit that it really wouldn't matter what answer I gave. All you want is to throw out that insult you are holding onto. You know. You want to call me a scumbag again. Or a sick baby killer. So I give you permission to call me whatever you want. You even have my permission to throw out all the homophobic slurs you want. So have at it.

I find you to be a very shallow person on the issues. Well, actually I find you and SSG to be superficial. The only real difference is that I actually think you're a good person. The only problem that I have with you is on the political issues. And the only problem I have there is that you refuse to address the salient points in the debate.

I can't talk to you about Roe v. Wade or the case before the court now. I don't think you understand the foundation that Roe v Wade was built on nor do you care...or so it seems.


Have a nice day.

[Copier Addict]

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I find you to be a very shallow person on the issues. Well, actually I find you and SSG to be superficial. The only real difference is that I actually think you're a good person. The only problem that I have with you is on the political issues. And the only problem I have there is that you refuse to address the salient points in the debate.

I can't talk to you about Roe v. Wade or the case before the court now. I don't think you understand the foundation that Roe v Wade was built on nor do you care...or so it seems.


Have a nice day.

Don't be mad. I said you have my permission to insult me.

The problem I see is that you pick one point (for example when life begins) in a much larger issue. Abortion rights have to do with more than one thing.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Don't be mad. I said you have my permission to insult me.

The problem I see is that you pick one point (for example when life begins) in a much larger issue. Abortion rights have to do with more than one thing.

Look, man, I heard everything you said about women being able to make their own decision and you having empathy for them. However, none of that is relevant in a court of law. You see, you have to make your case and it needs to have a basis in law.


For instance, Roe v. Wade was ultimately founded on the idea that abortion would be legal so long as it was performed before viability.

It doesn't matter what you or I think, this is the whole basis for legalizing abortion.

The question before the court now is whether science has advanced and proven that viability comes at an earlier age or whether viability should be considered at all.


I encourage you to read up on it and that's not an insult. It helps when 2 people are talking about the same thing.

[Phil B.]

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Yes YES HE DID!
#FJB

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[Copier Addict]

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Look, man, I heard everything you said about women being able to make their own decision and you having empathy for them. However, none of that is relevant in a court of law. You see, you have to make your case and it needs to have a basis in law.


For instance, Roe v. Wade was ultimately founded on the idea that abortion would be legal so long as it was performed before viability.

It doesn't matter what you or I think, this is the whole basis for legalizing abortion.

The question before the court now is whether science has advanced and proven that viability comes at an earlier age or whether viability should be considered at all.


I encourage you to read up on it and that's not an insult. It helps when 2 people are talking about the same thing.

All I can discuss is how I personally feel about something. I'm neither a lawyer nor a judge. So, having said that, I personally feel that women should be allowed to make decisions for themselves and not be dictated to by people with no stake in their decision. I know you think women make a decision like this lightly but I disagree.

[BillyCarpenter]

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All I can discuss is how I personally feel about something. I'm neither a lawyer nor a judge. So, having said that, I personally feel that women should be allowed to make decisions for themselves and not be dictated to by people with no stake in their decision. I know you think women make a decision like this lightly but I disagree.

I say this with all due respect and I mean that.

If you go through life and your criteria for how your country should be run is founded on "this is the way I personally feel", you are doing yourself a disservice. This is why we studied this stuff in school. This is why we elect government officials and have checks and balances.

I mean, kings and queens used to rule based on how they felt and that's why we have a constitution.

[Copier Addict]

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I say this with all due respect and I mean that.

If you go through life and your criteria for how your country should be run is founded on "this is the way I personally feel", you are doing yourself a disservice. This is why we studied this stuff in school. This is why we elect government officials and have checks and balances.

I mean, kings and queens used to rule based on how they felt and that's why we have a constitution.

I understand what you are saying, but I'm just me. I'm neither in government nor a king. I don't make the laws, I can just discuss how I think the law should serve the people it is directed at.