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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #12016
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by bsm2
    Sorry dude I am not playing your games 😃


    It's called a debate. I asked you a very simple and fair question. You're the one who said that you wanted to remove lies. I gave you an example.


    You can't run every time your statements are in question.
    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Now, let me answer your question because it's very simple because I have nothing to hide.


      I don't think the election was stolen from Trump. I don't believe him when he or anyone else says it. But he should be allowed to say it.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • bsm2
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        #12018
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Trump White House drafted statement attacking Barr after he publicly refuted Trump's voter fraud claims, transcript reveals

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        • bsm2
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          Biden says the economy is on a 'winning streak' as new data shows pay going up and inflation slowing down

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          • Copier Addict
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            #12020
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            A few narrow categories of speech are not protected from government restrictions. The main such categories are incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats.

            First Amendment - Permissible restrictions on expression | Britannica

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by copier addict
              A few narrow categories of speech are not protected from government restrictions. The main such categories are incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats.

              First Amendment - Permissible restrictions on expression | Britannica

              Very good. Now that we're clear on what speech is illegal...on to the debate.


              Should Trump be allowed to say that the election was stolen? Yes or No?

              Should I or anyone else be allowed to say the following: Repent to Jesus or burn in hell forever? Why or why not?
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #12022
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                Very good. Now that we're clear on what speech is illegal...on to the debate.


                Should Trump be allowed to say that the election was stolen? Yes or No?

                Should I or anyone else be allowed to say the following: Repent to Jesus or burn in hell forever? Why or why not?
                Yes.

                Should I be able to say where Elon Musk's plane is going to land?

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  Yes.

                  Should I be able to say where Elon Musk's plane is going to land?

                  I'm not sure. I'm against doxxing because it is dangerous and could lead to injury or loss of life. And if it's a matter of public record...maybe it shouldn't be.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    I'm not sure. I'm against doxxing because it is dangerous and could lead to injury or loss of life. And if it's a matter of public record...maybe it shouldn't be.
                    It's not doxxing. It's public knowledge anyone can find. Free speech????

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      It's not doxxing. It's public knowledge anyone can find. Free speech????

                      This is my opinion. Telling the location and time when a private plane is landing could be very dangerous and if it's public knowledge, maybe it shouldn't be. Why is it public knowledge anyway? What's the reasoning behind that?
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • slimslob
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                        #12026
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Posting conspiracy theories and lies should be removed.
                        Unfortunately the rightwing continues to promote lies conspiracy theories and false information.

                        There you go wrapped in the Constitution but still support a ex President that attempted a COUP
                        And there you go not understanding the Constitution or should I say The Bill of Rights. What you are calling conspiracy speech is actually political speech and publication. The Freedom of Speech part of the First amendment was actually intended to mean political speech and publication. The Freedom of the Press actually meant the freedom to investigate, not to say anything you want without doing proper investigating.

                        I would suggest that download, read, study and understand The Federalist Papers. They were written by a number of the wru0iters of the Constitution and contain explanations of the reasons for what is in the Constitution as originally written and the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments. You may also benefit by taking the free online course Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the Constitution from Hillsdale College,
                        Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the Constitution | Hillsdale College Online Courses

                        You can also get a free Pocket Constitution from Hillsdale. Get your free Pocket Constitution

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                        • slimslob
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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Once again spreading lies and conspiracy theories and false information should and has been removed from social media platforms.
                          Then remove yourself from this platform. You are the one telling the most lies. By the way, reporting about ongoing investigations is not conspiracy theories. Otherwise the January 6th kangaroo court was also a conspiracy theory from Nancy theory and you seem to love tu and apparent Nancy and Hillary. Does your wife know that?

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                          • slimslob
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                            #12028
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by bsm2
                            Fine
                            Tellme if the following is a lie and should be removed:

                            The election was stolen

                            Is that a lie and should it be removed?
                            It is an ongoing investigation that has already turned evidence to the fact in more than one state. Indictments and arrests have been made. Some have already been convicted and other trials are ongoing. But you refuse to read and/or accept the articles that we have about them.

                            Again I tell you quit your cionstant lying or remove yourself from this site.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #12029
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              It is an ongoing investigation that has already turned evidence to the fact in more than one state. Indictments and arrests have been made. Some have already been convicted and other trials are ongoing. But you refuse to read and/or accept the articles that we have about them.

                              Again I tell you quit your cionstant lying or remove yourself from this site.
                              It must be April Fool's Day

                              Dude Trump Lost
                              How stupid are YOU

                              Thanks for providing proof that false information should be removed

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                              • slimslob
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                                #12030
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                A few narrow categories of speech are not protected from government restrictions. The main such categories are incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats.

                                First Amendment - Permissible restrictions on expression | Britannica
                                Sorry but Britannical is not an authority on what the Founding Fathers of the United States Constitution thought and meant. They were and wrote papers about it. Many of those papers can be found in The Federalist Papers which are available for download on the internet.

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