Which was the BEST copier ever?

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  • xcopy
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Mar 2009
    • 57

    #181
    Re: Which was the BEST copier ever Xerox Docutech

    Yes there are alot of good machines out there. But the best ever was the Xerox Docutech.
    Up to 180 pages a minute, in production for 25 years, full glue book binding and 100 page sticher. It was in every large digital print shop. The thing is, if you had never worked on one you wanted to.
    It is the MT Everest of copiers/Printers. 1 million pages between services. Customers would do that every month. 12 million a year no worries. 100 million then it was refurbed. Does any other machine do 100 million.
    And yes i have worked on Konicas (Ubix) and Oce copy press machines and Canon and Kyocera and Panasonic and Toshiba(how mant time can you get away with manufacturing the same machine) and Xerox.
    Thanks

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    • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2010
      • 860

      #182
      Re: Which was the BEST copier ever Xerox Docutech

      Originally posted by xcopy
      Yes there are alot of good machines out there. But the best ever was the Xerox Docutech.
      Up to 180 pages a minute, in production for 25 years, full glue book binding and 100 page sticher. It was in every large digital print shop. The thing is, if you had never worked on one you wanted to.
      It is the MT Everest of copiers/Printers. 1 million pages between services. Customers would do that every month. 12 million a year no worries. 100 million then it was refurbed. Does any other machine do 100 million.
      And yes i have worked on Konicas (Ubix) and Oce copy press machines and Canon and Kyocera and Panasonic and Toshiba(how mant time can you get away with manufacturing the same machine) and Xerox.
      Thanks
      Eeh! That must be 'The Mother of all copiers'.

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      • kingpd@businessprints.net
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Feb 2008
        • 921

        #183
        Re: Which was the BEST copier ever Xerox Docutech

        The nice thing too is that now or soon the time limit on the docutech patents should expire, so then it becomes public domain and anyone can build them. If I'm still alive in a few years...maybe I'll do that...

        Patent office:

        How long does patent protection last?

        For applications filed on or after June 8, 1995, utility and plant patents are granted for a term which begins with the date of the grant and usually ends 20 years from the date you first applied for the patent subject to the payment of appropriate maintenance fees for a utility patent. There are no maintenance fees for plant patents . Design patents last 14 years from the date you are granted the patent. No maintenance fees are required for design patents.
        Note: Patents in force on June 8, 1995 and patents issued thereafter on applications filed prior to June 8, 1995 automatically have a term that is the greater of the twenty year term discussed above or seventeen years from the patent grant.

        Source: Patents



        Originally posted by xcopy
        Yes there are alot of good machines out there. But the best ever was the Xerox Docutech.
        Up to 180 pages a minute, in production for 25 years, full glue book binding and 100 page sticher. It was in every large digital print shop. The thing is, if you had never worked on one you wanted to.
        It is the MT Everest of copiers/Printers. 1 million pages between services. Customers would do that every month. 12 million a year no worries. 100 million then it was refurbed. Does any other machine do 100 million.
        And yes i have worked on Konicas (Ubix) and Oce copy press machines and Canon and Kyocera and Panasonic and Toshiba(how mant time can you get away with manufacturing the same machine) and Xerox.
        Thanks

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        • CraigWells

          #184
          Re: Which was the BEST copier ever? #Sharp SD-2260

          Haven't heard anything about the Sharp SD-2260. Big, Analog, heavy, (but rolls easy)
          Love the "air-feed". Wish they had made a digital version.

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          • redskin
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 6

            #185
            Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

            Xerox WorkCentre 133, Xerox 4110

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            • allan
              RTFM!!

              5,000+ Posts
              • Apr 2010
              • 5462

              #186
              Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

              Konica Minolta B1250, the only machine that has given me more than 2.5M copies without a SC code and still counting. Touch wood.
              Whatever

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              • NeoMatrix
                Senior Tech.

                2,500+ Posts
                • Nov 2010
                • 3513

                #187
                Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                The one that keeps working!......
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                • allan
                  RTFM!!

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5462

                  #188
                  Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                  Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                  The one that keeps working!......
                  Hehe
                  Whatever

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                  • hallux13
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 5

                    #189
                    Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                    That family of Kyocera are really great machines, I still have a fleet of them running well (it doesn't hurt that everthing is unit replaceable.

                    I've started working on Sharp's in the last 6 years and the Hercules is by far my favourite box. It's huge but easy to work on and can easly go 2 to 3 hundred K between calls if properly maintained.


                    Cheers!

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                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5462

                      #190
                      Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                      Originally posted by hallux13
                      That family of Kyocera are really great machines, I still have a fleet of them running well (it doesn't hurt that everthing is unit replaceable.

                      I've started working on Sharp's in the last 6 years and the Hercules is by far my favourite box. It's huge but easy to work on and can easly go 2 to 3 hundred K between calls if properly maintained.


                      Cheers!

                      BH B1250 can do 1M+ between Calls. Generally i go and clean them for inspection reasons at about 400K.
                      Whatever

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                      • allan
                        RTFM!!

                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 5462

                        #191
                        Re: My Avatar

                        Originally posted by 10871087
                        CMB wrote:


                        Is that the Ricoh 105 cpm machine?
                        Don't you just love a AF 2105. Heavy days.

                        I again vote Konica Minolta B1250. I have never work on a machine that would run for mare than 1.6M and the only thing to be replaced out of need was the web.

                        Machine runs up to 5.6M in peace. Replacing PM parts selectively.

                        Even Oce would eat this light looking/feeling machines dust.
                        Whatever

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                        • Rich
                          Field Supervisor
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 30

                          #192
                          Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                          Best copier ever made? The Kyocera Falcon range was good- you could detonate a ton of semtex in one of those and they'd still work. The best ever though has to be a toss up between the Ricoh FT6645 range ( the basic engine is still going 30 years later as the Martini) and the Phoenix range ( FT5135 etc.) So easy to work on from an engineering point of view and so reliable.

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                          • bsm2
                            IT Manager

                            25,000+ Posts
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 30298

                            #193
                            Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                            Royal 115

                            15 min per page
                            moving top
                            No feeder No sorter one cassette
                            The good old days
                            Maintenance every 20,000

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                            • Rich
                              Field Supervisor
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 30

                              #194
                              Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                              The Panasonic FP1300 was similar. Sliding flatten, clamshell, drive chains, A4R or B4 only, no zoom. 1 control PCB, 1 AC board & 1 DC board. And relays you could tap with a screwdriver to get them working. HEAVEN!

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                              • Dennison Tech
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 6

                                #195
                                Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

                                Like this?

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