White Privilege, clear cut.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

Look dude, the question has been asked and answered.
Just because someone is pro choice doesn't mean they are pro abortion. Can you understand that? All they are saying is the final decision goes to the person that is pregnant. Not someone sitting behind their keyboard trying to stir up shit.
You also stated that you prefer to "debate". In all the threads you post in I have seen zero evidence of this.

Let me prove my point that I do like to debate but that you can;t handle honest debate:


You said that a tranny was a real woman and that you'd have sex with him. You later said that you were lying about it.


Why did you first say that you'd have sex with a tranny and wouldn't hold his past against him but later say that you were lying?

I know it's uncomfortable for you but you said it of your own free will.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

PS - I'm just wondering how Debs can admit that an unborn child can survive on it's own before 9-months and that she supports a mother's decision to kill it. It makes ZERO sense to me. None.

[Copier Addict]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

Let me prove my point that I do like to debate but that you can;t handle honest debate:


You said that a tranny was a real woman and that you'd have sex with him. You later said that you were lying about it.


Why did you first say that you'd have sex with a tranny and wouldn't hole his past against him but later say that you were lying?

I know it's uncomfortable for you but you said it of your own free will.

I told you many times that I would NEVER tell you anything personal about myself. That's because of the way you like to "debate". Which is exactly what you are doing now. You will ask someone something, they will answer (about abortion for example) you will take that answer and spin it around into a complete straw man about how they enjoy watching babies get aborted at nine months. Which never never happens by the way. But you already know that.

[Copier Addict]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

PS - I'm just wondering how Debs can admit that an unborn child can survive on it's own before 9-months and that she supports a mother's decision to kill it. It makes ZERO sense to me. None.

And again, you are intentionally ignoring the fact that people can be pro choice without being pro abortion. Please, please try to understand that fact. It truly shouldn't be this difficult.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

I told you many times that I would NEVER tell you anything personal about myself.

I'm not spinning a thing. You DID tell me something personal. Very personal. You told me that you'd have sex with a tranny. You later said that you were lying. If you would have chose to say nothing at all, we wouldn't be talking about it now.


Likewise, Debs admits that an unborn child can live on it's own before 9 months but supports a mother's decision to kill it. It makes no sense to me and I'm asking her to help me understand beyond telling me that it's none of my business what a woman does.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

And again, you are intentionally ignoring the fact that people can be pro choice without being pro abortion. Please, please try to understand that fact. It truly shouldn't be this difficult.

Why must I explain everything to you. Maybe you can understand this: A person can be pro choice but not support abortion at 9 months. Step up and answer a question for once in your life. Do you support abortion at 9 months. Prove to Debs that you're an honest debater (you're not) and answer the damn question. You won't. I know your game.

[Copier Addict]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

Why must I explain everything to you. Maybe you can understand this: A person can be pro choice but not support abortion at 9 months. Step up and answer a question for once in your life. Do you support abortion at 9 months. Prove to Debs that you're an honest debater (you're not) and answer the damn question. You won't. I know your game.

The question is moot. There is nobody that would perform an abortion at nine months, so there's no need to have the question answered. Why do I have to explain everything to you.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

The question is moot. There is nobody that would perform an abortion at nine months, so there's no need to have the question answered. Why do I have to explain everything to you.

That's my boy. Ask him a question and he finds a way to not answer. I really have no use for you when debating because of your refusal to give a straight answer.

[Copier Addict]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

That's my boy. Ask him a question and he finds a way to not answer. I really have no use for you when debating because of your refusal to give a straight answer.

I have told you multiple times that I'm pro choice. That doesn't mean I'm pro abortion. So I'm not pro nine month abortion. But that doesn't mean I feel any more entitled to tell someone not to do it.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

I have told you multiple times that I'm pro choice. That doesn't mean I'm pro abortion. So I'm not pro nine month abortion. But that doesn't mean I feel any more entitled to tell someone not to do it.

We tell people what to do all the time. Don't murder, rob, rape. Don't drive fast. Pay your taxes or go to jail. But when it comes to a mother killing a baby that would otherwise survive outside the womb, you don't want to say anything?

What does this kid have to do? Tap morse code while in the mother's belly? Science says the baby is viable at 9 months.

[Debs1964]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

I am pro choice because I care about the life of the woman.

Imagine, if you will, a 12 year old girl, who has been raped by her father; because she is so young, and doesn't understand what's happening with her body, so she doesn't discover the pregnancy until past the point where the foetus may be viable. That girls mental health means a lot to me, that child may not be able to ever cope with what has happened to her, and that baby growing inside her is a constant reminder of the horrors she has been through. You are putting the life of an unborn child above the life of the girl who is already here.
You claim to be pro life, but what you really are is pro birth.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

I am pro choice because I care about the life of the woman.

Imagine, if you will, a 12 year old girl, who has been raped by her father; because she is so young, and doesn't understand what's happening with her body, so she doesn't discover the pregnancy until past the point where the foetus may be viable. That girls mental health means a lot to me, that child may not be able to ever cope with what has happened to her, and that baby growing inside her is a constant reminder of the horrors she has been through. You are putting the life of an unborn child above the life of the girl who is already here.
You claim to be pro life, but what you really are is pro birth.

Please don't carry me down this road as I'm really trying to understand your position. You made no qualifiers in your original statement. It sounds like you support killing a 9 month unborn baby in any case if that's what the mother wants? In other words, the mother can kill the unborn baby for any reason and you're fine with that? Or are there cases where you'd tell the mother that she's can't abort?

I'm simply trying to understand how you justify killing a baby that would otherwise live. This is a life we're talking about. Not a fingernail.

[Debs1964]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

Please don't carry me down this road as I'm really trying to understand your position. You made no qualifiers in your original statement. It sounds like you support killing a 9 month unborn baby in any case if that's what the mother wants? In other words, the mother can kill the unborn baby for any reason and you're fine with that? Or are there cases where you'd tell the mother that she's can't abort?

I'm simply trying to understand how you justify killing a baby that would otherwise live. This is a life we're talking about. Not a fingernail.

You cannot make distinctions in my opinion. I do not believe many women would carry a child for that long, and then decide to terminate for no good reason.

If the girl, or woman, who is pregnant is contemplating suicide because of what's happening to her, then, yes, I put her life above that of her unborn child. And I wouldn't mind guessing that if it was your daughter then you would feel the same way

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

You cannot make distinctions in my opinion. I do not believe many women would carry a child for that long, and then decide to terminate for no good reason.

If the girl, or woman, who is pregnant is contemplating suicide because of what's happening to her, then, yes, I put her life above that of her unborn child. And I wouldn't mind guessing that if it was your daughter then you would feel the same way

Debs,

I've read every word you said. You've given multiple scenerios (rape, incest, ect.) to justify your support of late-term abortion. As I've said, at least I can understand the logic behind that but at the end of the day, you clearly support late-term abortion no matter the reason. I apperciate your honesty. That's more than I can say for most folks around here.

Let me be clear. I don't support your position and think it should be illegal and it is illegal.

[Debs1964]

Re: White Privilege, clear cut.

Debs,

I've read every word you said. You've given multiple scenerios (rape, incest, ect.) to justify your support of late-term abortion. As I've said, at least I can understand the logic behind that but at the end of the day, you clearly support late-term abortion no matter the reason. I apperciate your honesty. That's more than I can say for most folks around here.

Let me be clear. I don't support your position and think it should be illegal and it is illegal.

I appreciate that you have a difference of opinion to me, and that's fine. Can we put this subject to bed now, and move on