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name a leftist intellectual.

Are you implying that Jordan Peterson is an intellectual? Seriously?

The man has never finished a coherent thought.

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Are you implying that Jordan Peterson is an intellectual? Seriously?

The man has never finished a coherent thought.

he definitely has a way of making things complicated. i''ll agree with that. but to call him stupid is just exposing yourself as either never actually watching more then a tiktok of him or uhhh.... that you're actually kinda dim witted. using the metric of "does he make sense to me?" is not a good one. and i asked for a leftist intellectual. like it's not a trap i can't think of any.

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he definitely has a way of making things complicated. i''ll agree with that. but to call him stupid is just exposing yourself as either never actually watching more then a tiktok of him or uhhh.... that you're actually kinda dim witted. using the metric of "does he make sense to me?" is not a good one. and i asked for a leftist intellectual. like it's not a trap i can't think of any.

Did I say he was stupid?
Have you ever seen him debate an actual intellectual? It's a joke.
He can't keep up. I saw a debate he had with Richard Dawkins. Peterson embarrassed himself. I kinda felt sorry for him by the end of the debate.

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Did I say he was stupid?
Have you ever seen him debate an actual intellectual? It's a joke.
He can't keep up. I saw a debate he had with Richard Dawkins. Peterson embarrassed himself. I kinda felt sorry for him by the end of the debate.

I've seen that too. I think dawkins and peterson are just very different and are unwilling to debate on some no man's land. peterson has a specific way of talking that is strong in some ways and weak in others. i think it was humourous to both sides. And btw new atheism is a failure so that's an L for dawkins. I wouldn't even say he's a leftist. he's said he considers himself a cultural christian and dislikes islam. so not exactly compliant with leftist groupthink. the reason i don't believe the left can have an intellectual is because they'd have to subscribe to postmodern thought and intersectionalism. AKA group guilt revenge wet dream.

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I've seen that too. I think dawkins and peterson are just very different and are unwilling to debate on some no man's land. peterson has a specific way of talking that is strong in some ways and weak in others. i think it was humourous to both sides. And btw new atheism is a failure so that's an L for dawkins. I wouldn't even say he's a leftist. he's said he considers himself a cultural christian and dislikes islam. so not exactly compliant with leftist groupthink. the reason i don't believe the left can have an intellectual is because they'd have to subscribe to postmodern thought and intersectionalism. AKA group guilt revenge wet dream.

Peterson couldn't even admit virgin birth was impossible. Granted, he has sold his soul to the daily wire and all the religious dogma that goes with it. So he now has to perpetuate the Christian myths or the money train stops.

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Peterson couldn't even admit virgin birth was impossible. Granted, he has sold his soul to the daily wire and all the religious dogma that goes with it. So he now has to perpetuate the Christian myths or the money train stops.

ah an avowed religious atheist.

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ah an avowed religious atheist.

Huh?
Just an atheist. I don't see any evidence of a god.
I do, however, believe organised religion is one of humankind's worst inventions.

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Huh?
Just an atheist. I don't see any evidence of a god.
I do, however, believe organised religion is one of humankind's worst inventions.

Oh for sure. People killing in the name of their God(s) is a horrible and widespread thing. Not that atheism ever fixes that or mankind's fallen nature. In fact, throwing oneself from the ties of a religion only make a population more susceptible to committing abominations imo.

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Oh for sure. People killing in the name of their God(s) is a horrible and widespread thing. Not that atheism ever fixes that or mankind's fallen nature. In fact, throwing oneself from the ties of a religion only make a population more susceptible to committing abominations imo.

I don't agree with the "committing abominations" thing. Atheism is not a belief system. It also doesn't mean that if you don't believe in a god you don't have morals or ethics. In fact, the opposite is more likely to be true. People who believe the religious dogmas are way more likely to commit atrocities in the name of God.

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I don't agree with the "committing abominations" thing. Atheism is not a belief system. It also doesn't mean that if you don't believe in a god you don't have morals or ethics. In fact, the opposite is more likely to be true. People who believe the religious dogmas are way more likely to commit atrocities in the name of God.

That makes zero sense what you said. Religious people are less likely to be moral and ethical since they are gonna follow the morals and ethics of their God. What? You saying there is a objective standard? How can you judge? I think atheists should be consistent in their belief system and realize that nothing is really right or wrong. Just whatever the society deems as good and bad. You claim that not believing in any god is a single standalone belief. You really gonna delude that there isn't anything connected to that? That there aren't consequences to such a fundamental mindset? You don't believe in a God so you obey the gov or yourself. Thus, you are of the same cloth as the rest of us. All you did was make your God (what you follow) something else.

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That makes zero sense what you said. Religious people are less likely to be moral and ethical since they are gonna follow the morals and ethics of their God. What? You saying there is a objective standard? How can you judge? I think atheists should be consistent in their belief system and realize that nothing is really right or wrong. Just whatever the society deems as good and bad. You claim that not believing in any god is a single standalone belief. You really gonna delude that there isn't anything connected to that? That there aren't consequences to such a fundamental mindset? You don't believe in a God so you obey the gov or yourself. Thus, you are of the same cloth as the rest of us. All you did was make your God (what you follow) something else.

That's not even close to what I said. I said people who follow the dogmas of religion are more likely to commit atrocities in the name of their god.
Atheism is NOT a belief system. It is simply a lack of belief in any gods. I don't know how theists can't understand that. There are no atheist meetings to discuss how we don't believe in a god. There is no one person claiming to be the conduit or representative of non god. We live our lives just like theists, except we get Sundays to not go worship a nonexistent god.

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That's not even close to what I said. I said people who follow the dogmas of religion are more likely to commit atrocities in the name of their god.
Atheism is NOT a belief system. It is simply a lack of belief in any gods. I don't know how theists can't understand that. There are no atheist meetings to discuss how we don't believe in a god. There is no one person claiming to be the conduit or representative of non god. We live our lives just like theists, except we get Sundays to not go worship a nonexistent god.

I'm not saying you act like a conventional religion. But to say that your atheism is not your belief system is silly. The rest of your ideology stems from that one belief. THUS you have an atheist belief system. If I'm wrong how do you operate in this world? What's good and evil in your eyes? And I fully understood you. Of course atheists have morals and ethics. They just don't have any foundation for them. At least the Muslim jihadist is following his God in obedience to his own morals and ethics. You'd follow orders to genocide a people because the state told you too. tomato tomato. at least the muslim has some whimsy and magic in his life

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I'm not saying you act like a conventional religion. But to say that your atheism is not your belief system is silly. The rest of your ideology stems from that one belief. THUS you have an atheist belief system. If I'm wrong how do you operate in this world? What's good and evil in your eyes? And I fully understood you. Of course atheists have morals and ethics. They just don't have any foundation for them. At least the Muslim jihadist is following his God in obedience to his own morals and ethics. You'd follow orders to genocide a people because the state told you too. tomato tomato. at least the muslim has some whimsy and magic in his life

There is no ideology. It's simply a lack in belief of any gods. It's not that difficult, nor is it any more complicated than that. You don't understand because you have been told from birth that the only thing separating civilised people from barbarians is your god. That's simply not true. If the only thing keeping you from raping and murdering is your god, you are not a good person.
You don't need to worry about how I "operate in this world". I do just fine. And the bonus is, I don't have some preacher telling me every Sunday that I'm a sinner. It's a win win. Lol

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There is no ideology. It's simply a lack in belief of any gods. It's not that difficult, nor is it any more complicated than that. You don't understand because you have been told from birth that the only thing separating civilised people from barbarians is your god. That's simply not true. If the only thing keeping you from raping and murdering is your god, you are not a good person.
You don't need to worry about how I "operate in this world". I do just fine. And the bonus is, I don't have some preacher telling me every Sunday that I'm a sinner. It's a win win. Lol

Are you dense? You're still avoiding my argument. Your morality is borrowed from the rotting culture of the west. Ok well if you insist your rejection of a god is a standalone belief then how do you justify your own moral system? Genuine question. Oh lol i forgot atheists actually benefit from having no basis for morality. Clearly your atheist nations of Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Communist China all have amazing track records.


Since you are not following me this is what i'm saying.

I believe in God > thus i want to follow his laws> Thus I will not murder my neighbor.

You don't believe in God> ??? > You won't murder?

This is oversimplified but I'm pointing at a hole in your belief system.