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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

    My liberal friends have assured me many times that illegal immigrants would never be allowed to vote in any election.

    My liberal enemies accused me of building a strawman argument.

    My response to both? You can always tell when a liberal is lying because his/her lips are moving.



    New York's Move Allowing Non-Citizens to Vote Could Lead Other Cities to Follow

    New York City lawmakers approved a historic measure on Thursday to grant hundreds of thousands of non-citizens the right to vote in local elections, setting the stage for a broader battle between supporters who want to expand immigrants’ voting rights and critics who think the move devalues citizenship.


    The new measure, which will become law within 30 days if it’s not vetoed or earlier if the mayor signs it before then, is expected to apply to more than 800,000 non-citizens who will soon be able to cast a vote for mayor, public advocate, city council members and other municipal candidates. It covers legal permanent residents who have lived in the city for at least 30 consecutive days and are green card holders or are legally authorized to work in the U.S. They will not be permitted to vote in state and federal elections.


    Immigration advocates in New York City and other parts of the country have been rallying behind the effort to give voting rights to non-citizens for years, saying they have long been an integral part of the community both as taxpayers and essential workers who deserve a say in local government.


    New York City is set to be the largest U.S. jurisdiction to allow non-citizen residents to vote in local elections regardless of citizenship or immigration status, joining about a dozen smaller cities and towns in the U.S., including several towns in Maryland and Vermont. A handful of other major cities, including Washington D.C. and Portland, Maine, have recently considered similar changes.

    New York City Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez, an immigrant from the Dominican Republic who became a U.S. citizen in 2000 and sponsored the bill, hopes the measure will encourage people running for public office to pay more attention to immigrant communities.


    “Anyone who would like to be elected for a citywide office will have to spend the same amount of time visiting those communities—not only to celebrate their culture by dancing and eating their food—but discussing their platforms and agendas,” Rodriguez says. “They will have to dedicate the same time in those working-class communities that they dedicate in middle- and upper-class communities.”


    Rodriguez and other supporters of the measure are optimistic that New York’s move will encourage other cities to follow.


    “When New York City does something, it ripples across the nation,” says Murad Awawdeh, executive director of the New York Immigration Coalition. “We want to make sure that what we’re doing here is really leading the way for others to also think about how they can enfranchise immigrants in their own cities.”



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  • Copier Addict
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    Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    My liberal friends have assured me many times that illegal immigrants would never be allowed to vote in any election.

    My liberal enemies accused me of building a strawman argument.

    My response to both? You can always tell when a liberal is lying because his/her lips are moving.

    I know you posted this to simply stir the pot, but at least put a little honesty into your BS.
    If you had actually read your own post you would have noticed it doesn't mention "illegal Immigrants".
    Let me add some truth to this for you.

    It covers legal permanent residents who have lived in the city for at least 30 consecutive days and are green card holders or are legally authorized to work in the U.S.

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    • JR2ALTA
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      #3
      Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      My liberal friends have assured me many times that illegal immigrants would never be allowed to vote in any election.

      My liberal enemies accused me of building a strawman argument.

      My response to both? You can always tell when a liberal is lying because his/her lips are moving.
      The infuriating thing is most of these illegals left their country because of lawless corruption, now push to enact lawlessness here. Smart!

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

        Originally posted by copier addict
        I know you posted this to simply stir the pot, but at least put a little honesty into your BS.
        If you had actually read your own post you would have noticed it doesn't mention "illegal Immigrants".
        Let me add some truth to this for you.

        It covers legal permanent residents who have lived in the city for at least 30 consecutive days and are green card holders or are legally authorized to work in the U.S.


        I started to go off on you and call you a fucking idiot but you're from Canada and you're simply ignorant to our laws. But may I politely ask you to shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about?


        non-citizens who are lawfully authorized to live permanently within the United States but are not allowed to vote.
        Why do you think liberals just now passed a law allowing them to vote? Don't answer. Just shutup.
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        • bsm2
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          Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

          News Flash
          they can't vote in Federal elections


          Still afraid of voters

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          • slimslob
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            Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

            Originally posted by bsm2
            News Flash
            they can't vote in Federal elections


            Still afraid of voters
            Truth flash THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN ANY ELECTION. Also once registered to vote in any election, there is nothing to prevent them from voting in any election.

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            • Copier Addict
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              Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              I started to go off on you and call you a fucking idiot but you're from Canada and you're simply ignorant to our laws. But may I politely ask you to shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about?




              Why do you think liberals just now passed a law allowing them to vote? Don't answer. Just shutup.

              So you are admitting they are NOT illegal immigrants?
              Thanks.
              That is all. Carry on

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              • bsm2
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                Originally posted by slimslob
                Truth flash THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN ANY ELECTION. Also once registered to vote in any election, there is nothing to prevent them from voting in any election.
                WRONG AGAIN

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                • Rusty.Harris
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                  Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

                  Originally posted by copier addict

                  It covers legal permanent residents who have lived in the city for at least 30 consecutive days and are green card holders or are legally authorized to work in the U.S.

                  NO! I don't care if you are a "permanent" resident. UNLESS you are a LEGALIZED CITIZEN of the United States, you have NO RIGHT to vote in any election
                  in this country. PERIOD.
                  I don't care if you pay taxes and all that crap, the LAW is you must be a CITIZEN to vote in this nation.

                  I don't give two hoots in h*ll who you are, what color your skin is, or what country you want to move from, but, if you come to THIS country I have
                  a couple requirements.

                  1. You are not fleeing another country because of a felony.
                  2. You come here LEGALLY.
                  3. LEARN English
                  4. Get a job
                  5. Don't make anyone in the USA bend over backwards to support your "ideals". Religious or political


                  After that, I don't care what you do, within the laws and the Constitution of the USA.

                  I get sick of people saying we need to get rid of this or that in the Constitution.
                  Fine, want to get rid of the Electoral college? I have NO problem with that if you do it within the rules governing an amendment.
                  1. Get someone in congress to introduce a bill.
                  2. Get the house to sign off on it and send it to the senate.
                  3. Get the senate to pass & sign off on it, send it to the president.
                  4. Have the president sign it and send it to all 50 states.
                  5. Repeat steps 2,3 and then have 3/4 of the state governors sign off on it.
                  THEN it's changed. But but but, that's too hard!
                  EXACTLY! It's suppose to be hard on purpose!

                  You want illegals or permanent residents to vote? AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!

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                  • bsm2
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                    Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    I started to go off on you and call you a fucking idiot but you're from Canada and you're simply ignorant to our laws. But may I politely ask you to shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about?




                    Why do you think liberals just now passed a law allowing them to vote? Don't answer. Just shutup.
                    Does that apply to you with copiers Networking and QuickBooks?
                    PS how paper trays work
                    Asking for a Friend

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                    • Copier Addict
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                      Re: Illegal Immigrants are allowed to vote

                      Originally posted by Rusty.Harris
                      NO! I don't care if you are a "permanent" resident. UNLESS you are a LEGALIZED CITIZEN of the United States, you have NO RIGHT to vote in any election
                      in this country. PERIOD.
                      I don't care if you pay taxes and all that crap, the LAW is you must be a CITIZEN to vote in this nation.

                      I don't give two hoots in h*ll who you are, what color your skin is, or what country you want to move from, but, if you come to THIS country I have
                      a couple requirements.

                      1. You are not fleeing another country because of a felony.
                      2. You come here LEGALLY.
                      3. LEARN English
                      4. Get a job
                      5. Don't make anyone in the USA bend over backwards to support your "ideals". Religious or political


                      After that, I don't care what you do, within the laws and the Constitution of the USA.

                      I get sick of people saying we need to get rid of this or that in the Constitution.
                      Fine, want to get rid of the Electoral college? I have NO problem with that if you do it within the rules governing an amendment.
                      1. Get someone in congress to introduce a bill.
                      2. Get the house to sign off on it and send it to the senate.
                      3. Get the senate to pass & sign off on it, send it to the president.
                      4. Have the president sign it and send it to all 50 states.
                      5. Repeat steps 2,3 and then have 3/4 of the state governors sign off on it.
                      THEN it's changed. But but but, that's too hard!
                      EXACTLY! It's suppose to be hard on purpose!

                      You want illegals or permanent residents to vote? AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!

                      Wow!! That's a lot of anger.
                      If you would take the time to notice, I didn't say anyone should or shouldn't be allowed to vote.
                      I was simply keeping Billy honest. He went all melty and said "illegal immigrants" were being given the right to vote. I just made him honest by pointing out the FACT that there is no mention of "illegal immigrants" in the acrticle he posted.

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        Wow!! That's a lot of anger.
                        If you would take the time to notice, I didn't say anyone should or shouldn't be allowed to vote.
                        I was simply keeping Billy honest. He went all melty and said "illegal immigrants" were being given the right to vote. I just made him honest by pointing out the FACT that there is no mention of "illegal immigrants" in the acrticle he posted.

                        Fine. Green card holders who aren't legal citizens are being allowed to vote. You like that better?


                        Now let me ask you this? Does that make it right? You don't have to agree with everything that a liberal passes. Speak up. What's your opinion?
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                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          Fine. Green card holders who aren't legal citizens are being allowed to vote. You like that better?


                          Now let me ask you this? Does that make it right? You don't have to agree with everything that a liberal passes. Speak up. What's your opinion?

                          Sensationalizing your statement by saying "illegal immigrants" when you post an article that clearly says "legal immigrants" is clearly dishonest and designed to rile people up.

                          Having said that, I personally don't think non residents should be allowed to vote.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            Originally posted by copier addict

                            Having said that, I personally don't think non residents should be allowed to vote.

                            I'm about to have a freakin' heart attack. You gave a direct answer to my question. Good man.

                            This is a direct threat to the USA.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • bsm2
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                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              I'm about to have a freakin' heart attack. You gave a direct answer to my question. Good man.

                              This is a direct threat to the USA.
                              Sensationalizing your statement by saying "illegal immigrants" when you post an article that clearly says "legal immigrants" is clearly dishonest and designed to rile people up.

                              Poor Billy so mad today

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