Gardens, Food and Food supply issues.

[slimslob]

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Avos. Its awesome to be living close to the export farms. Those are sub grade. About $7 for the crate!

The I grew up in used to have a cantaloupe, actually musk melon, packing shed. It was about a mile from my house and some days you could get a crate of 50 melons for as little as $0.25.

[copiertec]

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IBM plans on tracking your food from start to finish.
IBM Food Trust - Blockchain for the world’s food supply | IBM

[allan]

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IBM plans on tracking your food from start to finish.

More and more control. Its scary. Soon you can be sued for giving your neighbor a basket of fruit and veg.

[copiertec]

agweb.com

[copiertec]

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Human DNA being used to make yeast.
Humanized Yeast: Scientists Create Yeast With Important Human Genes

[allan]

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Human DNA being used to make yeast.
Humanized Yeast: Scientists Create Yeast With Important Human Genes

This is interesting. We got ourselves into a mess with bio technology. This is a serious step if what they claim is true. Could generate real effective medicines from this. But like recent history have shown us the powers to be would probably just monetize, weaponize and capitalize on this.

[DRichard]

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What gets to me it that nitrogen pollution that does not seem anywhere as serious as this DHMO issue is being used to gain property. First the Netherlands and India now Canada.
It would be a devastating blow on industry to try and ban it now.

Thanks for informing me about this. Reminds me of formaldehyde.

I KNOW! There is more Nitrogen than Oxygen in our air!

[allan]

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I KNOW! There is more Nitrogen than Oxygen in our air!

Its the nitrogen oxide gas and ammonia that would be the possible concern. It dissolves into water evaporates and comes down in raindrops. It is a concern just handled poorly.

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[copiertec]

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I KNOW! There is more Nitrogen than Oxygen in our air!

If I recall from my physics class, the nitrogen molecule is heaver than the Oxygen molecule hence explaining the ratio. And, one might argue the fact but there is less oxygen molecules at higher altitudes, but this is due to the fact that there is less air pressure to "push" the oxygen molecules together.

[allan]

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If the fertilizer is used in just the right amount all of it gets used. It is the overuse that leads to leaching nitrogen pollutants into water runoff. Over marketing and bad implementation is the bigger problem.
More must be better right?

[allan]

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26000 tones of Ukrainian grain drifting on the ocean with no buyer... Original buyer in Lebanon already filed his order after waiting 5 months, cheap maize anyone courtesy of Russia?

[copiertec]

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If the fertilizer is used in just the right amount all of it gets used. It is the overuse that leads to leaching nitrogen pollutants into water runoff. Over marketing and bad implementation is the bigger problem.
More must be better right?

There are also nitrogen fixing plant alternatives to use instead of commercial fertilizers for a small scale production farms, most bean crops, peanuts, etc. are used as cover crops to provide nitrogen to the soil. However, I'm not sure of their use for large farm long term applications, but with the recent "attacks/bans" on commercial synthetic fertilizers I am confident that we will see more of these "alternative" nitrogen fixing plants applied to these applications. And, the plus side to these natural nitrogen fixing plants is there is no "overuse" and leaching issues. I heard in Florida they are attributing Red Tide to an overuse of commercial fertilizers as a possible contributor.

[allan]

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There are also nitrogen fixing plant alternatives to use instead of commercial fertilizers for a small scale production farms, most bean crops, peanuts, etc. are used as cover crops to provide nitrogen to the soil. However, I'm not sure of their use for large farm long term applications, but with the recent "attacks/bans" on commercial synthetic fertilizers I am confident that we will see more of these "alternative" nitrogen fixing plants applied to these applications. And, the plus side to these natural nitrogen fixing plants is there is no "overuse" and leaching issues. I heard in Florida they are attributing Red Tide to an overuse of commercial fertilizers as a possible contributor.

So the best research for this time could be the cultivation and proper use of Rhizobium bacteria?

That is good to know that planting peanuts, peas or beans mixed with other crops would be beneficial in more than one way. Fixing nitrogen and feeding other plants at the same time. I am learning more about companion planing.

[copiertec]

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So the best research for this time could be the cultivation and proper use of Rhizobium bacteria?

That is good to know that planting peanuts, peas or beans mixed with other crops would be beneficial in more than one way. Fixing nitrogen and feeding other plants at the same time. I am learning more about companion planing.

I tried perennial peanut around my avocado trees, but the rabbits thought it was a buffet for them, they ate it all within a few days of planting. So, I started using the Mimosa pudica plant. All nitrogen fixing plants pull atmospheric nitrogen (going back to DRichard's post) and turns it into ammonium, the roots of nitrogen fixers have nodules which contain ryzobia microbes. When you cutdown or till the plant it releases the stored nitrogen into the soil. We also use cow peas (Black eyed peas) to produce more peas in the process so over time you have very little overhead for your gained nitrogen in return and healthier neighboring fruit trees or soil for next years crop, in turn lowering your use of synthetic fertilizers. Here is a list of some nitrogen fixing plants to try Nitrogen Fixation: N-Fixing Plants & Bacteria, Their Importance

[copiertec]

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Add this to the long list of already damaged or destroyed food processing plants.
Eastern Oregon historic flour mill destroyed in fire - KTVZ