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  • davidmtupper
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    #91
    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Originally posted by copiertec
    Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
    I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
    Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune
    This is what I was talking about. We have a few near me where you can't order at the counter, you need to use the kiosk. Saves them money in 2 ways, first by not needing someone to take your order (though they sometimes needs someone to run the register), second, by not having wrong orders, if you entered it and confirmed it you can't claim they got it wrong. There are already machines that can make burgers from raw materials, automating the fry station is almost childs play, same with drinks. Soon that restaurant that employs 10-12 people per shift will be employing 3-4, albeit more highly compensated, feeding the machines and handing food out the window (if that isn't also automated, it could easily be, optical recognition of the vehicle, etc.).

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    • slimslob
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      #92
      Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

      Originally posted by copiertec
      Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
      I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
      Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune
      It is not just labor shortages and worries about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. In Democrat ran states like here in California it is ridiculous increases in the minimum wage.

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      • Copier Addict
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        #93
        Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

        Originally posted by copiertec
        Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
        I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
        Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune

        The minimum wage has little to do with this though. If it did there would be zero self checkouts in Mississippi because the very low minimum wage would discourage companies from installing them. Robotics and self checkouts have more to do with corporate greed than an increase in minimum wage.
        Last edited by Copier Addict; 09-26-2022, 05:28 PM.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

          Originally posted by copier addict
          The minimum wage has little to do with this though. If it did there would be zero self checkouts in Mississippi because the very low minimum wage would discourage companies from installing them. Robotics and self checkouts have more to do with corporate greed than an increase in minimum wage.
          Man, you need to stop. You know those new EV's that you love so much? They'll all be assembled by robots eventually. Also, your menatility towards business is why you'll never run or own one. You will always be a consumer and never a producer. But you know that already.
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          • Copier Addict
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            Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            Man, you need to stop. You know those new EV's that you love so much? They'll all be assembled by robots eventually. Also, your menatility towards business is why you'll never run or own one. You will always be a consumer and never a producer. But you know that already.

            Is this your way of saying I'm correct? Thanks so much Billy. It means so little. Lol

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            • D_L_P
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              #96
              Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              No, you support a party that wants to tax business out the ass and then control them by vilifying them in the press and making them out to be monsters. Take you for example, you believe big pharma is evil. Yet, they've saved more lives than socialized medicine....which you love and is failing in Canada.
              It's still the party that voted to fight corruption while you support the party that embraces corruption.
              Taxes for corporations aren't bad. Before JFK the corporate tax was over 50%. You can whine about it but:

              The US economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance.
              https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?campaign_id=116&emc=edit_pk_20210928&id=1 0.1257%2Faer.20140913&instance_id=41506&nl=paul-krugman&regi_id=64551167&segment_id=70102&te=1&use r_id=197c011bae93a1612d9ab25805758208

              Big pharma is greedy, not evil. If you actually listen to what Democrats say about Big pharma you'd know this.

              Also, 29 out of 30 of the richest countries on this planet have socialized medicine. Guess which one doesn't? Do you want to know why?
              In case you haven't noticed healthcare everywhere is failing. Everyone I know has some story about having to wait several months just to see a doctor, then being rushed through. They tell me about waiting 4 or 6 hours in the ER only to be kicked out to make room for covid patients.

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              • D_L_P
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                #97
                Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                Originally posted by slimslob
                It is not just labor shortages and worries about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. In Democrat ran states like here in California it is ridiculous increases in the minimum wage.
                McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

                The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                  Originally posted by D_L_P
                  McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

                  The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.

                  Denmark is barely a country. Where are you from?
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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                    Originally posted by D_L_P
                    McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

                    The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.
                    You mean that they pay $4.99 for a burger that I have to pay $1.94 for here in California. And that is the jacked up price that delivery services charge. Doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                      Tax Rate in Denmark:


                      0- 57k - 27%

                      more than 57k - 42%


                      And now you know the rest of the story.
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                      • Copier Addict
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                        #101
                        Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        You mean that they pay $4.99 for a burger that I have to pay $1.94 for here in California. And that is the jacked up price that delivery services charge. Doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me.
                        At least do some research before you make statements like this Slimeslop.

                        In short, the price of a Big Mac in Denmark and the United States is roughly the same, give or take a dollar, despite the fact that employees in Denmark are paid substantially more than their U.S. counterparts.

                        Is a Big Mac in Denmark Pricier Than in US? | Snopes.com

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                        • copiertec
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                          #102
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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #103
                            Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                            Look, this whole Denmark vs. USA is silly talk.

                            DLP is just repeating an argument that he heard AOC make and Bernie Sanders has made simlar comparions. In other words, DLP is a socialist at heart.


                            But it's silly to compare what one country is doing and assume it will work in another country. Especially a country that is as tiny as Denmark.
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                            • Copier Addict
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                              #104
                              Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                              Stages of discussion with right winger.

                              Right winger "it doesn't work"
                              Knowledgable person "yes it works"
                              Right winger "no, it doesn't work"
                              Knowledgable person "YES, it works"
                              Right winger "NO, it doesn't work you idiot"
                              Knowledgable person "yes, it works"
                              Right winger after discovering that it does indeed work "it doesn't matter anyway".

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                                #105
                                Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                Stages of discussion with right winger.

                                Right winger "it doesn't work"
                                Knowledgable person "yes it works"
                                Right winger "no, it doesn't work"
                                Knowledgable person "YES, it works"
                                Right winger "NO, it doesn't work you idiot"
                                Knowledgable person "yes, it works"
                                Right winger after discovering that it does indeed work "it doesn't matter anyway".


                                Knowledgable person: Canada's healthcare system is failing

                                copier addict: Puts head in sand and pretends he didn't hear that.


                                Knowledgable person: A tranny with a dick isn't a woman.

                                copier addict: It's a real woman to me and I'd have sex with her.
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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