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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #31
    Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

    Originally posted by wjurls
    Why are getting rid of the PB16 Ultra? I have a pair of SVS PB3000's and the LFE they produce is insane! Serious creep out factor with the subsonic effects. I can only imagine how the PB16 hits.
    The PB16 Ultra is still available. They're offering a 45-day free trial on their website. You're the only person I've talked to that owns a SVS subwoofer. People truly don't understand how much bass they produce. You have to experience it.
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    • wjurls
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      #32
      Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      The PB16 Ultra is still available. They're offering a 45-day free trial on their website. You're the only person I've talked to that owns a SVS subwoofer. People truly don't understand how much bass they produce. You have to experience it.
      They are insane. They aren't a cheap "buzzbox" that resonate at 100 hz and actually end up annoying you. It's amazing when you are watching a movie and suddenly the couch moves.
      I've had a PB3000 for a couple of years now. Just added the second last week on a cyber Monday deal to even out the response. These suckers get down to 13hz with aplomb.

      My system is a 5.2.2 Dolby Atmos running off an Onkyo RZ-TX810. Martin Logan center, Monitor Audio in ceiling surrounds and SVS heights. If I was planning to stay in this house, I would upgrade to a 7.2.4 and use the ceiling speakers as my front and rear heights and get ear level surrounds.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #33
        Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

        Originally posted by wjurls
        They are insane. They aren't a cheap "buzzbox" that resonate at 100 hz and actually end up annoying you. It's amazing when you are watching a movie and suddenly the couch moves.
        I've had a PB3000 for a couple of years now. Just added the second last week on a cyber Monday deal to even out the response. These suckers get down to 13hz with aplomb.

        My system is a 5.2.2 Dolby Atmos running off an Onkyo RZ-TX810. Martin Logan center, Monitor Audio in ceiling surrounds and SVS heights. If I was planning to stay in this house, I would upgrade to a 7.2.4 and use the ceiling speakers as my front and rear heights and get ear level surrounds.

        I have a 7.2.4 system with 4 in-ceiling Klipsch directional speakers. I'm able to aim speakers at listening position. All of my ground level speakers are Klipsch. I have one Klispsch subwoofer in the rear of the room and the SVS PB-16 in the front.

        MY AVS receiver is a Marantz SR-7015. I have 2 Emotiva amps. The bigger one drives the 2 main speakers and the center channel.

        The bass literally shakes the entire house. I had to rip down some sheetrock and secure some loose studs because the rattle was interfering with the sound. I think I paid around $3,000 for the PB-16 alone. But it was well worth it because there is zero distortion down to the lowest frequencies. Some of the lower frequencies you can't hear with the human ear but you can feel them. Fucking insane.
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        • wjurls
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          #34
          Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          I have a 7.2.4 system with 4 in-ceiling Klipsch directional speakers. I'm able to aim speakers at listening position. All of my ground level speakers are Klipsch. I have one Klispsch subwoofer in the rear of the room and the SVS PB-16 in the front.

          MY AVS receiver is a Marantz SR-7015. I have 2 Emotiva amps. The bigger one drives the 2 main speakers and the center channel.

          The bass literally shakes the entire house. I had to rip down some sheetrock and secure some loose studs because the rattle was interfering with the sound. I think I paid around $3,000 for the PB-16 alone. But it was well worth it because there is zero distortion down to the lowest frequencies. Some of the lower frequencies you can't hear with the human ear but you can feel them. Fucking insane.

          Nice!! Nobody really seems to understand the obsession until they sit down to watch Aquaman or Jurrasic Park. Then they start asking questions.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            Originally posted by wjurls
            Nice!! Nobody really seems to understand the obsession until they sit down to watch Aquaman or Jurrasic Park. Then they start asking questions.
            Hey, man, have you watched "Ready Player One"? The Dolby Atmos mix is insane. Give it a watch and let me know what you think.

            I couldn't go back to living without my surround sound. It's a totally different experience. My friends freak out when they first hear it.
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            • slimslob
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              #36
              Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

              Originally posted by wjurls
              They are insane. They aren't a cheap "buzzbox" that resonate at 100 hz and actually end up annoying you. It's amazing when you are watching a movie and suddenly the couch moves.
              I've had a PB3000 for a couple of years now. Just added the second last week on a cyber Monday deal to even out the response. These suckers get down to 13hz with aplomb.

              My system is a 5.2.2 Dolby Atmos running off an Onkyo RZ-TX810. Martin Logan center, Monitor Audio in ceiling surrounds and SVS heights. If I was planning to stay in this house, I would upgrade to a 7.2.4 and use the ceiling speakers as my front and rear heights and get ear level surrounds.
              13Hz is getting into the infrasonic range. Prolonged exposure to low-frequency noise has been linked to symptoms like nausea, mood changes, and even a condition called vibroacoustic disease. Infrasonic Vibrations - Sound Therapy Education

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              • wjurls
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                #37
                Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                Hey, man, have you watched "Ready Player One"? The Dolby Atmos mix is insane. Give it a watch and let me know what you think.

                I couldn't go back to living without my surround sound. It's a totally different experience. My friends freak out when they first hear it.
                I haven't, I will add it to my list.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  So, I'm trying to find a way to download uncompressed ATMOS movies on a hard drive and play them back in the easiest way possible. Turns out its not so simple. The easiest way is to buy the DVD and rip it. I don't want to do that.

                  It's important to understand that you can have the best surround sound system but it all starts with the source - uncompressed files. The only other option is to purchase a Kaleidescape player. The cheapest one I've found is $3800.00. That's a tough pill to swallow.

                  Currently I'm able to stream uncompressed files via Kodi but every once in a while it will skip or freeze for a couple of seconds. It's rare but it happens.


                  Any suggestions?



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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Did you ever think you knew some shit until you got around somebody that knows their shit? That's happened to me twice in the last couple of years. The first time was when I signed up to this forum after being away from copiers for many years. I quickly realized that I didn't know shit.

                    The second time happened more recently when setting up my sound system. I thought I knew some shit but didn't know sh!t.

                    A wise man once said: You don't know what you don't know. You may think your sound system sounds good because you have nothing to compare it to.

                    How do you know when it's right? There's some great information on the net and youtube. There's an equal amount of bad information. Over the past couple of months, I thought I had it right. Nope.

                    There's a lot that goes into getting it right.

                    Lets start with room acoustics. If you measure room acoustics, every room will be different. When you run tests and look at the graph, there's will be peaks and valleys among the different frequencies. This isn't desirable as you want the graph to be flat. You don't want a big jump at 30hz and a dip at 60hz. This can be correct by proper speaker placement, acoustic panels, and corrective software.

                    Time alignment - This involves measuring the distance between each speaker and your ear. I used Audyssey software to automate this procedure.

                    Sound level matching: Otherwise know as volume control. My Marantz has 11 channels and 2 sub outputs. Those channels are separates and independent to one another. Volume is set independently to make sure there's balance to the listening position.

                    Source Material - This is the one that tripped me up. We spend all this money on our theater and most of the streaming services are bad. Really bad. That's for music and movies. There's large chucks of data that's missing. It's important to get uncompressed files for both.

                    For the last couple of months I've read and watched everything I could get my hands on. The best source I've found is "Audioholics" on youtube. They have devoted their lives to this stuff and that's their full time job. If you have a high end system, I highly recommend them. Peace.
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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      I finally have my Plex Media Server set up and working. Basically, the plex server software runs in the background and acts as a client. In other words, you load the software on multiple PC's and devices, and you can access your music, movies and pictures across your network. And play it.

                      This will allow me to rip Atmos movies from a bluray disc and have lossless video content - uncompressed. That's been my goal.

                      Now I have to buy a quality bluray drive for my PC and rip away.
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                      • wjurls
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                        #41
                        Re: Home Theater/Audiophiles

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        13Hz is getting into the infrasonic range. Prolonged exposure to low-frequency noise has been linked to symptoms like nausea, mood changes, and even a condition called vibroacoustic disease. Infrasonic Vibrations - Sound Therapy Education
                        Also makes for great effects LOL

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          I know most won't have a need for the Plex Media Server but after having used it for several days, it's really cool and works flawlessly.

                          In a nutshell, what Plex does is combine their webserver with my local storage device.

                          When you place a movie on your hard drive, it automatically transfers to their webserver and pulls all the artwork an metadata for every movie, The webpage where you play your movies from looks similar to Netflix but you're playing the movie from the hard drive. Cool.
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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            Part of this hobby is learning what's out there and what works best for you. As I mentioned, I have my Plex Server up and running and it allows me to rip media in the form of MKV lossless audio and video. I thought I was all set uptil I came across the Magnetar UDP-900 4K UHD Bluray Player.

                            Before I go any further, I want to mention that if you're an Audiophile, nothing is cheap. You can go out and buy an average Bluray player for couple of hundred bucks. The Magnetar cost around $1,500. Is it worth it? I say yes.

                            First of all, a normal bluray player only supports a couple of formats. The Magnetar supports almost every format under the sun. You can also connect an external hard drive and rip you're movies to the bluray player and play them. The electronics are also far superior for audio and video.

                            This is the only bluray capable of doing all the things I've mentioned. I'm considering it. Here's a video:



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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              I was checking out what's new from Marantz. They have released their new flagship model: Marantz AV-10.


                              This is a 15.4 channel processor - 15 speakers and 4 subwoofers. The price? $7,000.00

                              So, you spend 7k and hook everything up and not a single sound will you hear. Why? Because it's a processor only, no amplification. You need a separate amp with 15 channels. Cost? Marantz Amp 10 = $7,000.00.

                              After spending 14k, you now need 15 speakers and 4 subs. I'd guess that when all is said and done, you'd be somewhere around 30-40K? It's getting ridiculous.

                              This isn't even considering that you need a dedicated room with acoustical treatment and the absurd amount of time dialing everything in.
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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                Continuing on with my journey to rip movies to a storage device that will play on my Plex Server....


                                I put this on hold until this morning. I needed an external bluray drive for my PC: I ordered the following:




                                ASUS Powerful Blu-ray Drive with 16x Writing Speed and USB 3.0 for Both Mac/PC Optical Drive BW-16D1X-U

                                I also needed to order a large storage device: I ordered the following:



                                Western Digital 20TB Elements Desktop External Hard Drive, USB 3.0 drive for plug-and-play storage - Western DigitalBWLG0200HBK-NESN


                                Will arrive next week.
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