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  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

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    • Apr 2008
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    #1

    A good question for our friends at the other side of the pond....

    Here's a question that just occured to me.

    Given the right to bear arms in the USA, do any techs on here actually carry a weapon in their car / toolcase / secreted on their person? Do you know anyone that does?
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.
  • mrwho
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    #2
    While I'm on the same side of the pond as you are, I guess that any tech that carries a screwdriver on his toolcase is carrying a potential weapon - I've more than once felt the need of carrying it on my back pocket while going through some dubious areas, just in case.

    As for firearms, my curiosity is the same as yours. There's the general idea around here (at least where I live) that most americans are gun-nuts who use any excuse to carry a weapon - and the bigger the better! Is it true, even partially?
    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
    Mascan42

    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

    Ibid

    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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    • fixthecopier
      ALIEN OVERLORD

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      #3
      I have 3 guns on my bedroom wall. One is a Winchester 22 I bought when I lived in the woods for protection against snakes and wild dogs. The other 2 are antiques, one is a 4-10 shotgun from 1916 from my grandfather, and a bolt action 22 from the 1930's, also grandpa's. My wife owns a handgun she bought when we would have to go out at night to pull money from vending machines that were being robbed. My mom lives in the country at the end of a dirt road by herself and has a shotgun and pistol left from when my father died. My wife's cousin is the gun fancier you think about. He and his father have lots. I know more people who own guns than do not. None of the techs here carry during the day. If I were searched going onto the Army base with a gun, I could be banned, although thousands of the soldiers have handguns in their cars and trucks. Because I live in a military town there is a larger number of gun owners. Most owners keep their stuff at home.
      Those far out gun owners you think about, well they are around. I have known people who have underground bunkers full of weapons waiting for the revolution.
      The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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      • TonerMunkeh
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        #4
        And that's precisely why I want to live in America
        It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

        Hit it.

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        • mrwho
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          #5
          Around here, it's illegal to carry firearms unless you work on security or other related job - and even then there's lots of paperwork and requirements that make that legalization that much more difficult.

          Personally, I don't know anyone who has a gun, much less someone who carries one with him. Around where I live, someone that talks about having guns is very rare - much less someone openly showing one.
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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          • atwageman
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            • Jun 2007
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            #6
            Well I have guns, for many reasons. I have to work at night on occcasion and venture into some neighborhoods that have some violent crime issues.

            Also I am a private zookeeper (on the side) and maintain a large collection of venomous snakes. Despite a alarm system and cctv system that would rival most government installations, once in awhile an idiot will try to gain access. They are not trying to kill the snakes, but release them.......Animal Rights Nut Job Groups. The idea is if the snakes escape, then that will instill public hysteria, and then inturn for the authorities to pass laws that prevent the keeping of animals. If anybody cares my website is ATW Zoological Its what I do when not fixing office machines. My wife wants me to string electrified razor (North Korea style) wire all around the parameter and turn it in to one big ass bug zapper just to see if we would find somebody the next morning who has removed themselves from the gene pool. lol

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            • zico21
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Mar 2008
              • 58

              #7
              This brings back a fond memory of a Tech who worked for our company many years ago. He liked to carry a handgun which was interesting since he often worked in the local school system. Our resident wit had complete re-written lyrics for Aerosmith "Jane's got a gun", one part that I can remember was "Sean's got a gun, ......, brought into the school one day, fell into the duplex tray...".

              I only wish I could remember more!
              Last edited by zico21; 10-13-2009, 12:16 PM.
              Come on Fulham!

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                #8
                I knew a salesman once that kept a loaded gun in the car. I don't know much about guns, but it was a big black honking revolver.

                He was probably the most level headed of all the salesman I've ever worked with. If I were going to assign the task to anyone I would have chosen this guy. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • Mr Spock
                  Vulcan Inventor of Death

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                  • Aug 2006
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                  #9
                  First I do not own a gun for personal reasons. (I may want to use it on the family from time to time. and I have very curious kids.) But I know several that carry one or two in the cars. Not into the customer offices.
                  I do not judge those who do. My nephew and brother both own and carry.
                  And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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                  • Shadow1
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                    #10
                    One of the techs I work with used to carry a full size Winchester .30-.30 - one of my favorite deer rifles... not very practical if your getting carjacked, but "you never know when you'll run across Aqhmed the terrorist."

                    As for myself, I have 2 rifles and I used to carry a 9mm. My .22 is for small game, the .243 for deer and varmit, and the 9mm for thugs. My territory includes some very bad areas - but we got company vehicles, and while my local bossman is very cool with legal carry the corporate office has not given any policy, and I'm not keen to be the test subject.

                    My 9 is always hot - fully loaded with one in the pipe (it's rated for cocked and locked carry) and has been out of it's holster, though fortunately I've never had to point it at anybody. All this is perfectly legal where I'm at and our state also enacted a no retreat self defense law when muggings and carjackings started getting bad. Except for a few areas we have a pretty low crime rate.

                    An armed society is a polite society.
                    An armed man is a citizen, and unarmed man is a subject.
                    And you never point a firearm at anything you don't intend to kill.

                    There are very few outright "gun nuts" although they do exist. Most of us are hunters or protecting our family - although a large percentage of the "self defense" category have never fired their guns, and would get themselves killed if they ever had a breakin. Still more talk more than they shoot, which is a deterrent but hopefully they're never called on to back it up. That said, there are plenty of us who know how to use our firearms and are capable of pulling the trigger if necessary.

                    Think about it: if you're a criminal which house are you going to break into? The one with the "Make love not war" bumper stickers on their car, or the house with NRA bumper stickers parked in the driveway?
                    73 DE W5SSJ

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                    • Mr Spock
                      Vulcan Inventor of Death

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shadow1
                      There are very few outright "gun nuts" although they do exist. Most of us are hunters or protecting our family - although a large percentage of the "self defense" category have never fired their guns, and would get themselves killed if they ever had a breakin. Still more talk more than they shoot, which is a deterrent but hopefully they're never called on to back it up. That said, there are plenty of us who know how to use our firearms and are capable of pulling the trigger if necessary.
                      This is one reason why I do not have a gun. I (being reasonably intelligent) know that I would need time and training to use the gun and maintain it correctly. Since I do not have the time to do this I would rather not have a gun at this time. Also I live in a manufactured home (double wide trailer) and the walls are thin enough that a bullet would probably go all the way through if it missed.

                      As to carrying a gun the one company I worked for would allow it in your own car (not a company car) and you had to maintain a 1 million dollar liability insurance policy.
                      And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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                      • Nieu
                        Technician
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 18

                        #12
                        Johannesburg South Africa

                        I know this post is all about USA , but for safety reasons there is a lot of tech's in South Africa that also carries a few extra items in there pockets.Just for safety

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                        • pioneer007
                          Technician
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 37

                          #13
                          I dont know of any consealed gun toters. I know of many hunters with deer rifles and such, thats about it.
                          Personally I have a Smith Weson .38 that belonged to my mother. Inherited when she passed away in 95.
                          She was a lieutenant at the WA state penitentiary and had to target qualify yearly as an officer. Nice gun, never fired it, but does give a sense of security.

                          What you see on TV about America and our constitutional right to carry them are mostly the radical left throwing a tremendous spin job!
                          Makes for good TV viewing and ratings!

                          Imortal words of the Beatles:
                          "When I feel my finga on your trigga, I know, nobody can do me no harm"

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                          • Eric1968
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                            #14
                            Here in Holland it's illegal to carry guns. When nobody is allowed to carry a gun, the less weapens there are, the less shootings there are.
                            The average dutch police officer uses his gun a few times in 40 years of service! And I think we are a pretty safe country.

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                            • Shadow1
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eric1968
                              The average dutch police officer uses his gun a few times in 40 years of service! And I think we are a pretty safe country.
                              The average US officer never fires his gun except at the range.

                              There is a big push by the left to make it illegal to own a gun, saying it will reduce crime. Sounds all well and good, except that there these people out there called criminals who are committing all the crimes, and they don't obey the laws - which is why we call them criminals... Duh! You'd better believe they'll have guns - it makes their "job" so much easier.

                              These same leftward idiots have wussified our courts and jails to the point where the law is not a deterrent anymore: for a mugger who MIGHT get caught, and MIGHT actually get prosecuted, and MIGHT get convicted, well, he MIGHT get a slap on the wrist and serve a couple months in a jail where he gets 3 meals a day, a warm bed to sleep in, cable TV, exercise equipment, and educational opportunities. Not even a good 'ol chain gang anymore.

                              On the other hand if granny MIGHT pull a .357 out of that purse he's trying t steal and blow his ass away - well, that's a deterrent.

                              The media in this country spotlights the relatively few accidental shootings and breakins gone bad, but never touches the crimes stopped by armed citizens. What if a single teacher with a CCW permit had a firearm at Columbine? 26 children could have been saved.

                              Sorry guys, you've pushed one of my hot buttons on this.
                              73 DE W5SSJ

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