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  • Cipher
    It's not easy being green

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    • May 2006
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    Do you use a rubber rejuvenator?

    If you do which one do you use and recommend?
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    Yes, the stuff works great!
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    No, I don't rate the stuff, I always replace worn rubber rollers.
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    I just use a damp cloth to clean the surface of rubber rollers that still have some tread left.
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    I spray them with WD40.
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    I hate polls, and I hate you for creating one! :D
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  • unisys12
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Although, we have been told not to use it, our dealer still uses it on very dirty relay rollers and the hard white pressure rollers found in the paper path. The product we use is Fedron. Great smelling stuff!! And it will melt the hell out of most softer plastics.

    The main reasons our dealer was told not to use it is because that over time, it will slightly shrink the rubber. At least that's what a Ricoh instructor told one of our guys while in the B140 class.

    Most of the time though, like in the field, we use Spartan SD-20. Great stuff as well.
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    • pjdbm
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      250+ Posts
      • Sep 2007
      • 359

      #3
      I dont believe in putting bubble gum on a problem, its worn for a reason and it will come back sooner than later.

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      • CMB
        KonicaMinolta Tech.

        250+ Posts
        • Mar 2005
        • 458

        #4
        fedron is some toxic sh!t. i don't want to be no where around it.
        try cleaning grey rubber rollers and tires with WD-40. works great.
        alcohol dries out rubber, WD-40 makes it like new, but like the other guy said, you can only get so much out of a rubber roller or tire and it may need to be replaced.

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        • unisys12
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          • Jul 2007
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          #5
          yeah, it is toxic... but we don't clean feed rollers with it. That's plain ignorant!!

          I might have to play around with WD-40. But, I must say, I don't feel very comfortable cleaning a roller with a lubricant. We had a tech a few years ago that we found out was cleaning relay rollers with D-Ink, which has a oil base to it. It worked so well, that soon all the other techs in that shop were doing it. We didn't find out about what was going on until the shop started ordering feed tires and clutches like crazy. When we started looking at call historys, we noticed that they had cleaned the relay rollers, then was back a week later for the same thing, cleaned the rollers again, then a week later was ordering feed tires and clutches for the machine. Even then, the problems were not going away because the oil was working it's way out of the rubber, causing it to become slick again. Cleaning them with SD-20 did the trick, because it removed enough of the oil from the roller.

          Granted, the D-Ink worked great for cleaning the hard rubber rollers normally found in relay areas and long hard registrations rollers, but it was not worth it. I will experiment with the WD-40 on a shop machine we have though. I'm always willing to try new things.
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          • CMB
            KonicaMinolta Tech.

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            • Mar 2005
            • 458

            #6
            10-4. word of warning. do not use WD-40 on clear neaphreane(sp?) rollers. it will eat them up.

            ps. WD-40 isn't really a lubricant. look at the name.

            water displacement-formula 40.

            invented by NASA.

            its more of a cleaner and degreaser than a lubricant.

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            • Cipher
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              #7
              Normally I will just replace rollers that have no tread/grip left.
              Paper feed separation rollers get so bald there is just no other way really.

              But often I will clean ADF rollers and reg rollers with a water damp cloth.
              It can be fairly suprising how smooth paper dust and toner rub off will make a roller and how much grip does remain underneath.
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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
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                #8
                De-Solv-It

                It's just idiotic to clean worn rollers. Dirty rollers, thats another story...
                Try "De-Solv-It" available at Gill-Roy's Hardware. Its an orange oil based cleaner/solvent that doesn't damage cover plastic or rubber. Great Stuff!

                As Roller Rejuvenator goes, it's only good for cleaning toner from fuser parts & steel. It's too corrosive for rubber and plastic.

                Most manufacturers recommend a soft dry towel or water, which is pretty much useless. Clearly, the engineers have never done a service call!
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                • knightfall
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 633

                  #9
                  all rubber rejuvenator should have one purpose and that is to buy time until the new roller comes in and not as a substitute for replacing the rollers, there is no magic solution to regrow rubber that has been rubbed off by paper. I use either soap and water or wd-40, everything else if you read the warning label will state that this is toxic, carcinagenic or may cause cancer. Water wont harm you and wd-40 depending on who you ask may help with arhritis.
                  Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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                  • dwparker.wa
                    Technician
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 33

                    #10
                    We use Simple Green. It cleans the grundge off the rollers quickly, It's readily available, and it puts a little "stick" on the rollers if they are worn and we don't have a replacement at the time. It usually will last a month or 2.

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                    • just a tech
                      Service Manager

                      250+ Posts
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 333

                      #11
                      i have used soap and water,rubber rejuvenator,plain water, and simple green over the last few years..believe that simple green probably cleans dirty rollers the best for me...ya notice, i said "dirty" rollers..i believe in keepin the rollers clean, but if they are worn in any way--they get replaced..never tried wd-40 and probably never will due to smell of chemical.(customers can be funny like that..lol)

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                      • JOEYSULLIVAN
                        Technician
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 20

                        #12
                        rubber rejuvenators i never used and heres why

                        An old timer told me about using WD-40 on feed tires and I laughed at him thinking he was joking. Then came the deliema within a month of his telling me about"His Trick". After driving 40 miles out for a service call and having found out the pick up tires were failing and realizing id have to do this boring ride again real soon as I didnt have the feed tires, i got desperate. I scuffed up the tires with emery cloth and sprayed some WD-40 on a rag, rubbed it on the feed tires and then to my amazement ......the tires started looking BRAND NEW! Yep,,, He was right and from that day forward, ive been doing that "trick" and rarely replace tires.

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                        • Mark B
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                          • Jul 2006
                          • 153

                          #13
                          How about rubber transport rollers? Do you clean them every call, or only when there is a jamming problem. What do you use on them?

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                          • JOEYSULLIVAN
                            Technician
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 20

                            #14
                            I use WD-40 on ALL rubber items

                            Originally posted by Mark B
                            How about rubber transport rollers? Do you clean them every call, or only when there is a jamming problem. What do you use on them?
                            I have used WD40 on printer/copier/fax feed tires, registration rollers, glues (stickers) on the plastic skins, also it removes all/any ink pen marks, and lastly roofing tar. This is fantastic stuff and was discovered by accident. Water Dispersant is the W/D, found by chance while testing for a formula to repel water on a motorboat engine.

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                            • CMB
                              KonicaMinolta Tech.

                              250+ Posts
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 458

                              #15
                              scientiest at NASA invented it by accident seeking a lubricant for rocket ships. they noticed it displaced water, so the name wd formula 40.

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