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  • subaro
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 1274

    #31
    Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

    Originally posted by Phrag
    Have to raise this thread from the dead...

    If I need another spring hook, I usually fashion one out of a thick paperclip and bend one end into a hook shape with my needle nose pliers.

    To seat Jesus Clips back onto their shaft, I magnetize the tip of my Needle Nose Pliers and have the clip hang off the tip.

    I do remember seeing a wad of paper holding up a transfer belt to stop that Pressure Welding Alienation code. C 2251 or something I think. It was at KM training. We called it The Wad Mod.
    Mr. Phrag, could you post a pic how the clips hangs of the tip of the needle nose pliers.

    My favourite thing for quick repairs,both temporary and permanent is HOT GLUE STICK. Working time for this glue is fast and fairly strong.
    our service coordinator has two classic model cars on top of his shelf cabinet. On monday mornings he comes in to find one or two of the wheels broken off as they topple to the ground. he would superglue and next week same thing. so he asked me to do something about it, and i came back in 10 minutes dropped it a couple of times on the floor and it is till solid today. the wonders of hot glue.

    Covers of machines that comes in from the field often has the clips broken and what do you do. replace or jimmy. I take discarded covers cut the J hooks and attach them on to the broken covers. works good as new, and they are inside and customer cannot see the fix. sometimes you put a new cover only to discover it does not match the rest of the faded covers. hurrah for hot glue.

    Who knows of the kyocera fs-1128 --1135 tray front bezel getting broken off . very poor design, but the entire tray has to be replaced at a rediculous price. Again hot glue with a piece cut off blank from main board options slot and when its done , stronger that the original.

    I Like this thread topic as it displays the ingenious capability of normal folks.
    Last edited by subaro; 05-03-2015, 09:58 PM.
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    • ddude
      General Troublemaker

      250+ Posts
      • Feb 2009
      • 473

      #32
      Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

      I Like this thread topic as it displays the ingenious capability of normal folks.

      Which is why we all come here and spend so much time here. These postings are the jewels that we mine, the nectar that we seek.
      2000 mockingbirds = 2 kilomockingbirds

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
        • 37068

        #33
        Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

        Originally posted by ddude
        Which is why we all come here and spend so much time here. These postings are the jewels that we mine, the nectar that we seek.
        I like this but it sounds more like a random thought than a McGyver.

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        • fixthecopier
          ALIEN OVERLORD

          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 4714

          #34
          Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

          When I was new to this, I had a call at a funeral home 45 minutes away at the end of the day on a Friday. The developer was really dirty with paper dust. and crap. I needed to clean it so it would last til Monday. Being a funeral home, they have stockings for the female bodies so I ask for some and they worked good enough to strain it.

          The tech at my shop who gets the award for best Mcgyver, is Martha, who fixed the charge corona on a Bizhub 500 with electrical tape. The plastic post in the end block had broke. She was able to use tape and get enough tension to make copies. I was amazed. It was at one of my customers. It was a lot of effort. However it was one of 2 machines in that room, so it was not needed. It was still amazing.
          The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            • Jul 2007
            • 22973

            #35
            Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

            Originally posted by fixthecopier
            ... The tech at my shop who gets the award for best Mcgyver, is Martha, who fixed the charge corona on a Bizhub 500 with electrical tape. The plastic post in the end block had broke. She was able to use tape and get enough tension to make copies. ...
            Along the same lines, does this count? This is the rear charge block for the primary scorotron for magenta. Ordinarily there is a plastic receiver post to hook the sawtooth onto. This is ~4mm of SPC (small paper clip), and a #67 hole drilled through the side of the block, and a few drops of cyanoacetate to hold it all together:

            Rear charge block1.JPGRear charge block2.JPG

            Or the plastic post for the spring breaks off. Again SPC, #67 hole, and cyanoacetate:

            Scorotron tensioner.JPG


            =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • Phrag
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Oct 2012
              • 417

              #36
              Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

              Lost a jesus clip once. Only had a nicely sized spring on hand. Wrapped and tied it around the groove, crushed it with pliers. machine kept chugging along until i got another suitable jesus clip to fit.

              Sent from my GT-I9506 using Tapatalk

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              • slimslob
                Retired

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                • May 2013
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                #37
                Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                Originally posted by Phrag
                Lost a jesus clip once. Only had a nicely sized spring on hand. Wrapped and tied it around the groove, crushed it with pliers. machine kept chugging along until i got another suitable jesus clip to fit.

                Sent from my GT-I9506 using Tapatalk
                I usually use paper clips.

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                • Iowatech
                  Not a service manager

                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3930

                  #38
                  Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  I usually use paper clips.
                  On the faster analog Laniers (the Toshibas, not the Canons) the duplex exit sensor's actuator feeler would get broken off by dummies. I got pretty good at fixing those with paper clips.

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                  • matthewr88
                    Technician
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 28

                    #39
                    Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S


                    im just gonna leave this here cause story of my life

                    also heatshrink over bluetak u can make anything with that
                    Can you fix it........we can fix anything its just how many parts do u wanna pay for

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                    • qbert69
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1152

                      #40
                      Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                      Not necessarily a "McGyver" concept here, but many of you that sell "new-sed" machines as your "bread and butter" can use this little bit of info:

                      You get a machine in to refurb and resell it.

                      The only problem is, is that the machine has covers and panels that the plastic has started to yellow or brown on and it looks like shiznit!

                      Use this:

                      Wear Gloves.

                      Salon Care 40 Volume Creme Developer

                      Called "developer", which is basically a peroxide bleach cream, painting this onto the machine panels with a cheap chip brush:

                      2" Chip Brush

                      Paint it on and let it sit for a good while...may take 45 min to an hour! (...or longer, depending how discolored the plastic is!)

                      When done, wipe off with a damp cloth and your plastic panel should have the original color rejuvenated so it looks like it did the day it was delivered brand new!

                      The information I give you above is the short simplified version, which I have tested and can be seen here:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright

                      The Retr0bright is just another term for this process!




                      PS--Retr0bright Website:

                      REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
                      Konica Minolta Planetariums!
                      https://www.konicaminolta.com/planet...gma/index.html

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                      • allan
                        RTFM!!

                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 5463

                        #41
                        Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        I usually use paper clips.
                        The nice big ones with the plastic coating works well.

                        Fixed countless things with a paperclip and a cigarette lighter. Works well to hold actuators in place if the plastic moulding is broken.

                        Just glued back a broken fan blade with crazy glue. That is on a 170 watt motor.
                        Tried 2 kinds of epoxy with no luck. Can believe that super glue did the trick.
                        Whatever

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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

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                          • Jul 2007
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                          #42
                          Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                          eS656 registration flag

                          Alabama registration flag.JPG

                          It's a steel plate trimmed to size. It's hard to say it it will wear better or worse than the original plastic. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • Phrag
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 417

                            #43
                            Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                            Originally posted by subaro
                            Mr. Phrag, could you post a pic how the clips hangs of the tip of the needle nose pliers.
                            So this reply is late but basically, the outer arch of the c-clip touches the grooves on the inside of the pliers jaws. Toolbag is in my car at the moment.

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                            • NeoMatrix
                              Senior Tech.

                              2,500+ Posts
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3514

                              #44
                              Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              eS656 registration flag

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                              It's a steel plate trimmed to size. It's hard to say it it will wear better or worse than the original plastic. =^..^=
                              How will it go when the customer rips a paper jamb out of the machine backwards against the flag...
                              Would it be better if it was rolled into a blunt "U" shape like a hair pin.
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                              • Iowatech
                                Not a service manager

                                2,500+ Posts
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 3930

                                #45
                                Re: CALLING ALL McGYVER'S

                                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                                Would it be better if it was rolled into a blunt "U" shape like a hair pin.
                                That's the way I used to make the paperclip feelers for the duplex exit sensor on the larger analog Toshibas.
                                But the neat thing about replacing/enhancing plastic feelers with metal is that while they might bend, if you're lucky you can just reform them then.

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