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  • Tricky
    Field Supervisor

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    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 2620

    #16
    Re: zaza? wtf is this

    He is a nice guy and was asking for a service manual a while back so I sent him one, which brings me to an excellent post by charm5496 a while back,


    Originally posted by charm5496
    reading a Canon manual is almost like reading a post from Zaza.

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    • helpme
      Technician
      • Dec 2011
      • 17

      #17
      Re: zaza? wtf is this

      I have truly enjoyed all your insight on this issue looks like we are going to have some fun.


      Thanks for the frimwear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Eric1968
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 2458

        #18
        Re: zaza? wtf is this

        It's often the way he askes for something (I want this, I want that) that irritates people.

        But I'm sure he doesn't have free access to manuals, firmware, updates, modifications etc. like I do. And that he doesn't get training for those new machines. So sometimes I feel a bit sorry for him.

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        • mrwho
          Major Asshole!

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 4299

          #19
          Re: zaza? wtf is this

          Originally posted by Eric1968
          It's often the way he askes for something (I want this, I want that) that irritates people.

          But I'm sure he doesn't have free access to manuals, firmware, updates, modifications etc. like I do. And that he doesn't get training for those new machines. So sometimes I feel a bit sorry for him.
          That and also the fact that his english is not so good could be the reason - it is much easier to say "I want manual for bizhub 500" instead of "Would someone please provide me the propper documentation for the bizhub 500?". Most people would use the first one due to sheer laziness, but in Zaza's case could be otherwise.

          Or maybe I just need another cofee...

          PS: English is also a second language to me, so forgive me for any mistakes or for looking like I'm being a snob little bastard.
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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          • kingarthur
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Feb 2008
            • 1356

            #20
            Re: zaza? wtf is this

            Originally posted by mrwho
            PS: English is also a second language to me, so forgive me for any mistakes or for looking like I'm being a snob little bastard.
            English may be a 2nd language to you, but as with a lot of people with english as a 2nd language your english is a lot better than those who have english as their main language
            Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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            • sdrawkcab
              Confused & Bewildered

              250+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 317

              #21
              Re: zaza? wtf is this

              Most people just think ZAZA WTF
              Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints

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              • Tricky
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                • Apr 2009
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                #22
                Re: zaza? wtf is this

                Originally posted by mrwho
                That and also the fact that his english is not so good could be the reason - it is much easier to say "I want manual for bizhub 500" instead of "Would someone please provide me the propper documentation for the bizhub 500?". Most people would use the first one due to sheer laziness, but in Zaza's case could be otherwise.
                That's an interesting point. It changes what different nationalities regard is a polite request. I work with a few Polish people and while this is in no way an attack on them its an example of the point I am trying to make. One of these Polish colleagues is a warehouse administrator and quite often has to get me to rob parts for field engineers. He might say

                Can you rob this part.

                That's it no please or thank you, I once questioned why and the explanation was that typically the English use please and thank you too often. In his opinion 'can' is a polite way of saying 'will you' so adding please or thank you would be superfluous.

                So if he posted here and needed a service manual his idea of a polite request may be,

                Can I have a manual for....
                Last edited by Tricky; 02-24-2012, 08:42 PM.

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                • mjarbar

                  #23
                  Re: zaza? wtf is this

                  Originally posted by skynet
                  So if he posted here and needed a service manual his idea of a polite request may be,

                  Can I have a manual for....
                  Yep, when you type something you know how it sounds to you but someone a continant and a couple of languages away doesn't.

                  Add into that the use of a translator program you can set yourself up for a epic fail.

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                  • HenryT2
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 962

                    #24
                    Re: zaza? wtf is this

                    Originally posted by kingarthur
                    English may be a 2nd language to you, but as with a lot of people with english as a 2nd language your english is a lot better than those who have english as their main language
                    How true !
                    It's a crying shame that our schools don't spend much time on "English" anymore. Heck, some kids can barely read, and these are some of the MATH whiz kids in college.
                    Here in the US we have so many different dialects ( Southern ,Northern, Redneck, Hillbilly, Yuppie, Yankee, Eastern, Western, Boston, Californian, ... well you get the idea ) that English is just the ROOT language.
                    That's one reason my job is fun....I get to talk to people all over the US.
                    "The Serenity Prayer" . . .
                    God grant me the serenity to accept stupid people , the courage to not waste my time and energy on them , and the wisdom to know that I cannot fix STUPID .

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                    • Eric1968
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2458

                      #25
                      Re: zaza? wtf is this

                      Originally posted by HenryT2
                      How true !
                      It's a crying shame that our schools don't spend much time on "English" anymore. Heck, some kids can barely read, and these are some of the MATH whiz kids in college.
                      Here in the US we have so many different dialects ( Southern ,Northern, Redneck, Hillbilly, Yuppie, Yankee, Eastern, Western, Boston, Californian, ... well you get the idea ) that English is just the ROOT language.
                      That's one reason my job is fun....I get to talk to people all over the US.
                      Well, I feel the same about my own language (Dutch). When you read the things people post on Facebook, write in emails etc. it really makes you cry.

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                      • DWise
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 895

                        #26
                        Re: zaza? wtf is this

                        Originally posted by Eric1968
                        Well, I feel the same about my own language (Dutch). When you read the things people post on Facebook, write in emails etc. it really makes you cry.
                        Are you referring to crying from laughter? Or crying from realizing the people who can't talk the language correctly, much less make responsible choices are the future "leaders" of our respective countries?
                        Do for one what you wished you could do for everyone. - Andy Stanley

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                        • sweet.persona
                          Engineer
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 414

                          #27
                          Re: zaza? wtf is this

                          Originally posted by DWise
                          Are you referring to crying from laughter? Or crying from realizing the people who can't talk the language correctly, much less make responsible choices are the future "leaders" of our respective countries?
                          Lazhar gourari @zaza @lazhar gourari we miss u
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                          • Hansoon
                            Field Supervisor

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                            • Sep 2007
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                            #28
                            Re: zaza? wtf is this

                            Zaza, isn't that the inventor of "Frimwar"?

                            Hans
                            “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                            • emujo2
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              #29
                              Re: zaza? wtf is this

                              How about Tinny J..he was another one always wanting free everything and never contributed..E

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