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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
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    #1

    You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

    I spent today with my personal car. This all starts about ... 2004.

    Back then the Festiva needed a brake job and I was unusually flush, so I offered the job to our warehouse manager. I sent along the shop manual as a reference. I'd seen some of his work on his own vehicle, and had confidence that he could manage. OK, so I was wrong. As I was driving the car back I noticed that it was handling pretty badly. The rear wheels were going to fall off. This calls for some explanation.

    On most cars the wheel bearings typically are hand tightened, then a castle placed over the axle nut, then a cotter pin to keep it from coming apart. It's a little different on the Festiva. It uses an aluminum axle nut torqued to 22 foot pounds while spinning the brake drum. Then the nut is peened into a ridge in the axle shaft. No castle, no cotter pin. So by the time I got home the rear bearings were pretty screwed up. I found the axle nuts never peened. When torqued and peened it was quite a bit better. That was 2004.

    So it's been getting louder and louder, to the point where I can't hear the radio. I don't drive this car much anymore. This is the vehicle that I transport sheets of plywood, bags of cement, and most anything else. If it makes some noise I'm not bothered that much.

    On my way home the other day the noise stopped, so I knew I was in trouble. I pulled over at the nearest flat patch of asphalt and sure enough, those right rear bearings were done. It must have chewed up and spit out one of those cylindrical bearings. The last 10 miles took an hour as I crept home, wobbling all the way.

    Today it got four bearings, two seals, and alternator belt, and a new-to-me tailgate. That should do me until 2020. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=
  • nmfaxman
    Service Manager

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    • Feb 2008
    • 1705

    #2
    Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

    One of my best friends and a prior copier tech builds his own drag race cars.
    I trade computer repair for vehicle labor and we buy our own parts.

    It is who you know and what you know to trade.
    Barter, barter, barter.
    Business write off for parts and no paid labor taxes.
    Why do they call it common sense?

    If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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    • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2010
      • 860

      #3
      Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

      Thank GOD '' You Crept home'' Alive.

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      • rthonpm
        Field Supervisor

        2,500+ Posts
        • Aug 2007
        • 2857

        #4
        Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

        Originally posted by DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
        Thank GOD '' You Crept home'' Alive.
        Agreed! I had a few bearings start sounding crunchy on my old car: it was never fun and I was cheap enough to wait until the sounds got really loud before ever doing something about it, overall though it's not worth the hassle of destruction. At least it sounds like you've got the skills to do the work yourself: some of us poor souls need to rely on a garage to do it for us!

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        • KenB
          Geek Extraordinaire

          2,500+ Posts
          • Dec 2007
          • 3945

          #5
          Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

          Some years ago, my wife and I were on vacation in Colorado, and decided to drive Pike's Peak.

          The rental car was a Pontiac Grand AM; only a year or two old, but fairly well beat.

          It was quiet all the way up, but there was some nasty undercarriage rattle on the way down. Not a good thing when descending a 14,000 foot mountain!

          About half way down the rattle suddenly stopped. What was next??

          After we made it down safely. I told my wife that I figured whatever was making the noise either got better, or more than likely, fell off.
          “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            • Jul 2007
            • 22864

            #6
            Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

            It's heavenly!

            My radio goes up to max : 55. Yesterday I listened at: 39. Today: 21. I thought the rear speakers were blown, but it was really the vibration from the rear end causing the speakers to buzz. The buzzing is gone.
            It's as though that industrial coffee grinder fell off the back. You can actually hear the motor now.

            The only part of the job I could not do was pressing out the bearing seats. My local auto parts store does the job for $15 per side, and a 2 hour wait. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • NeoMatrix
              Senior Tech.

              2,500+ Posts
              • Nov 2010
              • 3514

              #7
              Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

              Originally posted by blackcat4866


              The only part of the job I could not do was pressing out the bearing seats. My local auto parts store does the job for $15 per side, and a 2 hour wait. =^..^=
              Depending on if the bearings are still on the car or not
              A little bit of heat from your gas burner or back yard B.B.Q.
              A tool socket the size of the bearing and a block of wood end on as a drift to protect the socket tool.
              A decent size knockometer (hammer) and the bearing should come out with a couple of hits of the hammer.

              Either way I know the S.O.B's can be fun to get out.

              You made it back safe with the wheels still on your car, which surprises me ....
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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
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                #8
                Re: You know you're in trouble when the noise stops ...

                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                Depending on if the bearings are still on the car or not
                A little bit of heat from your gas burner or back yard B.B.Q.
                A tool socket the size of the bearing and a block of wood end on as a drift to protect the socket tool.
                A decent size knockometer (hammer) and the bearing should come out with a couple of hits of the hammer.

                Either way I know the S.O.B's can be fun to get out.

                You made it back safe with the wheels still on your car, which surprises me ....
                After listening to the curses from the gentleman at the auto parts store, it's $30 bucks well spent. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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