A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

[Shadow1]

Re: A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

Popcorn anybody? This is getting good. Wow

Starting to wonder if people subscribe to threads I've commented on (no ego problem there...) just to watch the fireworks. Doesn't matter if you agree, disagree, or just don't care, it's quite a show...

Forget the popcorn, we all need to find a conveniently located bar and have a few rounds.

From your comment I can't figure out if government regulations are bad and control is good, or, if regulations are good and control is bad.

Government is good and necessary to a point. Regulations are good and necessary to a point. We are WAY beyond those points.

Regulations such as not being able to drop somebody's insurance once they get sick, and not excluding children with pre-existing conditions from coverage are good. Regulations forcing people to pay for coverage they don't want or need - or forcing them to purchase insurance at all when they may not be able to afford it are over the line.

Perhaps it's time for you to find out what conservatives mean by "Limited Government"

[Darren King]

Re: A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

Starting to wonder if people subscribe to threads I've commented on (no ego problem there...) just to watch the fireworks. Doesn't matter if you agree, disagree, or just don't care, it's quite a show...

Forget the popcorn, we all need to find a conveniently located bar and have a few rounds.


Government is good and necessary to a point. Regulations are good and necessary to a point. We are WAY beyond those points.

Regulations such as not being able to drop somebody's insurance once they get sick, and not excluding children with pre-existing conditions from coverage are good. Regulations forcing people to pay for coverage they don't want or need - or forcing them to purchase insurance at all when they may not be able to afford it are over the line.

Perhaps it's time for you to find out what conservatives mean by "Limited Government"

The problem is, insurance companies try to screw you, so, the government has to come up with regulations to correct it. Then the insurance companies come up with loop holes so the government has to fill those loop holes. And so on and so on. Thats how you end up with such a cumbersom system.
Of course insurance companies don't want to pay. They are not in business to help people, they are in business to make money, lots of money, and it works.
If you want "limited government" you will be at the mercy of corporations. Maybe we should wish for honesty in business. Riiiiiiight. lol
Where there are large amounts of money involved, there is corruption and thinking that having the government just stand back and watch will solve the problem is just sticking your head in the sand.

[Shadow1]

Re: A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

Where there are large amounts of money involved, there is corruption and thinking that having the government just stand back and watch will solve the problem is just sticking your head in the sand.

Competition will. More regulation is not the same as proper regulation... One is helpful, the other is harmful.

A free market company can only raise its rates or lower its services to the point where it fears their competition will undercut them and steal all their customers. In a government controlled system rates / services can degrade to the point where government corruption allow. Show me a single honest politician.

Obamacare is doomed to failure, and it's trying to take my family down with it.

Sad thing is that I partially agree with you, in that it's going to take far to long for competition to affect the system that people are suffering under. Obamacare has no hope of fixing anything, and has only succeeded in raising my rates and lowering the level and quality of services my family receives.

So, I'm going to suggest trying a different tactic: Provide significant tax breaks and regulatory incentives for Insurance companies that operate under strict 501(c)(3) Non-Profit requirements... perhaps eventually requiring all insurance companies to operate this way. That would be a lot less oppressive than the current government over-regulation, and and might stand a snowball's chance in hell of actually working.

I doubt the insurance company execs would like my suggestion, and the liberals among us will probably argue with anything I'd suggest. The point is that there are dozens of better solutions than this ill-conceived "Pass the bill, so you can find out what's in the bill" piece of crap we had crammed down our throats, but wasn't good enough for the ones who pushed it on us.

[Darren King]

Re: A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

So, I'm going to suggest trying a different tactic: Provide significant tax breaks and regulatory incentives for Insurance companies that operate under strict 501(c)(3) Non-Profit requirements... perhaps eventually requiring all insurance companies to operate this way. That would be a lot less oppressive than the current government over-regulation, and and might stand a snowball's chance in hell of actually working.

I doubt the insurance company execs would like my suggestion, and the liberals among us will probably argue with anything I'd suggest. The point is that there are dozens of better solutions than this ill-conceived "Pass the bill, so you can find out what's in the bill" piece of crap we had crammed down our throats, but wasn't good enough for the ones who pushed it on us.

Sounds like a form of modified communism to me. lol
And you're right, insurance company execs would never allow it. They need their million dollar bonuses for screwing you slowly.

[Shadow1]

Re: A Small Peek at Liberal Indoctrination

Communism? Not hardly. It's still a business, and the executives can still collect a decent salary, but it doesn't have shareholders to worry about. Non-Profits hold a long and dignified history of getting special tax breaks, etc. because the services they provide are focused on the people they're providing for, rather than the "rich" execs bottom line.