Gun Control

[SalesServiceGuy]

registeredGun control: Maine town rejects mandatory gun ownership | World | News | National Post

[Shadow1]

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Saleservice guy.

Un american to believe in the 2nd admendment? Are you out of you mine?

I think the first admendment for people that think like you do needs to be gotten rid of. How's that. Kinda dumb don't you think?

Un American. ?

You're being schooled on what is un-American by a non-American. Dumb is redundant at this point.

Unfortunately he's also partly right - Requiring gun ownership is just as dumb as ObamaCare requiring everyone to buy insurance.

That's not to say I don't think it's a good idea for every household to have a gun, so long as they know how to use it. The town should have passed an ordinance encouraging everyone to own a gun, instituted The Castle Doctrine. (A man's home is his castle - if you find someone who doesn't belong there, and they appear dangerous for any reason, shoot first and ask questions later.), and put in some liability protections for legal gun owners.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Mr Bill, you are correct. It is every American's right to own a gun, regardless of how far many people want to interpret that right beyond the original intentions of the 2A.

[MR Bill]

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I agree that they don't need to pass this law making you own a gun. I agree.

But you said it is ANTI AMERICAN as those who cling religously to the right to own guns under the 2A.

Right.

You sound like Barak Obama.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Mr Bill, it is totally un-American to force upon someone gun ownership!

Under the 2A you might have the right to own a gun but you do not have the right to make gun ownership compulsory.

[MR Bill]

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Saleservice guy.

Un american to believe in the 2nd admendment? Are you out of you mine?

I think the first admendment for people that think like you do needs to be gotten rid of. How's that. Kinda dumb don't you think?

Un American. ?

[SalesServiceGuy]

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The Colorado Senate on Monday gave final approval to a series of gun restrictions including expanded background checks, as it tied gun control to mass shootings in the state and elsewhere. The Democratic gun control package in Colorado is being watched nationally to see how a politically moderate state with a gun-loving past responds to the recent shootings in suburban Denver and in Newtown, Conn.
Democratic Senate Leader Morgan Carroll said lawmakers have no excuse after those mass shootings not to tighten gun rights. Her district includes the Aurora movie theater where 12 people were killed.
"If we fail to do a commonsense measure ... then shame on us," said Carroll, arguing for a bill to expand background checks to private and online gun sales.
Colorado senators were taking final votes Monday on five gun-control measures - including magazine ammunition limits and expanded background checks - that won initial approval Friday after more than 12 hours of debate. Three of the five bills had passed by midday.
Republicans tried in vain to stop the package, which also includes a gun ban for people accused of domestic violence crimes and a ban on online-only gun training for a concealed-carry permits.
Two proposals in the Democratic gun package were pulled last week because of lack of support. Those were a liability measure for gun owners and a concealed-weapons ban on college campuses.

Colorado Senate give final OK to gun control bills - WSAV: News, Weather, and Sports for Savannah, GA

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Mandatory gun ownership in the guise of public protection is a dumb small town idea that infringes an individuals right not to own guns. It is as anti American as the those who cling religously to the the right to own guns under the Second Amendment.

Small towns might be able to pass such legislation but it would be impossible to enforce in court against a well funded objector.

[HenryT2]

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Just happened to see this on MSN ...


By Sarah Mahoney, Reuters


Residents of a Maine town are expected to vote Monday on whether each household should be required to own a firearm, a decision that has thrust the tiny town of Byron into the heated national debate on gun control.
The vote is scheduled to take place on Monday evening in a potentially rancorous annual town meeting for the western Maine town's 140 residents and will be largely symbolic.
The town's head selectman says the vast majority of households in Byron already have at least one gun, and a requirement to possess guns and ammunition would be unenforceable because Maine law bars municipalities from legislating on firearms.
"It was never my intention to force anyone to own a gun who doesn't want to. My purpose was to make a statement in support of the Second Amendment (to the U.S. Constitution)," said Head Selectman Anne Simmons-Edmund, who proposed the ordinance.


The December shooting rampage that left 26 people dead at a Connecticut elementary school has reignited the national debate over guns. In response, some states have been prompted to tighten gun laws, while other states have sought to keep federal gun measures from being applied within their borders.
Byron is not the only town to mull such a measure. Last week, selectmen in the Maine town of Sabbatus, about 60 miles from Byron, voted against putting a similar proposal before town residents.


In Georgia, a city leader in Nelson has proposed an ordinance calling on every head of household to have a gun as a way to keep down crime in the city of 1,300 residents, which employs only a single police officer.

The Nelson city council is expected to vote on the gun ownership ordinance on April 1.
In Byron, Simmons-Edmund, who is also a police officer in nearby Dixfield, said the measure reflects community concern about the remote area's rising crime rates, which she said have nearly tripled in the last year.
Not all in the town were supportive of the move.
"It gives new meaning to the term 'March Madness,'" said Byron resident Philip Paquette, who has spent the past three decades as a Merchant Marine. "She is infringing on the rights of townspeople. I'm a hunter and own guns, and I have a right to. People also have a right not to own guns."
Simmons-Edmund says she got the idea after a suggestion from her father and fellow Byron resident Bruce Simmons.
"Five days ago, I would have predicted this article would pass," Simmons-Edmund said. "But we've gotten so much media attention, nothing would surprise me. This town has never been so closely scrutinized. It's up to the residents to decide now. And if they shoot it down, I am totally fine with it."
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[Acme]

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As usual, The Government doesn't appreciate competition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/us...BRF.html?_r=2&

[SalesServiceGuy]

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" The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday backed President Barack Obama's call to crack down on the clandestine trafficking of firearms, marking the first votes in Congress on gun-control since a school massacre last year prompted calls for action. On a largely party-line vote of 11-7, the Democratic-led committee approved a bill to make it a federal crime to engage in "straw purchasing," or buying of guns on behalf of those who are prohibited from owning them.


"It is designed to prevent criminals from using straw purchasers who can pass a background check and then hand those firearms to criminals," Chairman Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, said in touting his bill. It carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison."

Senate panel backs crackdown on clandestine gun sales - Yahoo! News

[fixthecopier]

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In 2013, define "Authority"
Seems in all my years that term has always led to abuse of said term.

Not sure what you mean. It was used to reference law enforcement as was mentioned in the link posted by Iowatech. Unless I got it wrong it was saying that the list of companies would not sell to local governments that prohibit citizens from owning the same wepons as the police. Don't know about you, but I don't want the crackheads in town to be able to buy flash grenades and tear gas canisters.

[Acme]

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In 2013, define "Authority"
Seems in all my years that term has always led to abuse of said term.

[fixthecopier]

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Since gun companies sell for profit, i find it hard to believe they will cut their profits to make a point. I couldn't find definitions of what restrictions they are talking about. I was installing a copier at a sporting goods store on base yesterday. it went behind the gun case. The tactical shop and gun case and accessories section were full. I don't think the boycott will hurt them. The thing I noticed was the sign that said there was a 3 day waiting period for purchase of rifles and shotguns. You can leave base and go to Wal-mart and walk out with one, but on base you wait. There are tens of thousands of people on base who own and buy guns and never bitch about it, yet I see civilians lose their mind over waiting 3 days to buy a handgun. I thought it was interesting.

Why do civilians think they should be able to arm themselves with the same things authorities have?

The threat to not sell to certain groups is just for show. having worked for the government, I can tell you that they can get anything through 3rd party contractors. If a local government was on the list of those who they won't sell to, I could set up a company on paper and drop ship any of those products anywhere in America.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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... what does "the police loop hole" have to do with straw gun sales?

As best as I can research, "the police loop hole" does not exist in main stream media reporting. It is a fringe interest group than is endorsed by third tier gun and ammo manufacturers who pledge not to sell their goods to gov't organizations that they perceive infringe upon Second Amendment rights.