Gun Control

[Iowatech]

Re: Gun Control

Here's something new, What do you think?
The Police Loophole

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Gun Control

Should people involved in straw purchases, where guns are bought by individuals for other people who may not be entitled to own them, be prosecuted by the law? I realize in most states there are currently no laws to prevent this.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Gun Control

There is probably little short term chances of raising taxes on guns and ammo due to the uncompromising and some what dogmatic positions Republicans and the NRA force upon USA politics. Some consideration has to be given to the cost of guns and ammo to US society and recovering those costs.

[Shadow1]

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...except you have brought up EXACTLY the point. Government should live within it's means - we don't need more taxes, we need less - and we need a government that quits wasting money on stupid useless things (like foreign aid to countries who will hate us no matter how much we give them)

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Gun Control

Perhaps Chicago and Illinois may not be the greatest examples. That is not the point. Should guns and ammo be taxed just like alcohol and cigarettes to raise funds for municipal services?

[Iowatech]

Re: Gun Control

Actually, Chicago and Illinois would probably be better served if they would do a better job of even pretending to enforce their current laws. That's the damnedest thing, too, from a state with two former governors in prison.

[Shadow1]

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Should an extra tax be levied on all weapon and ammo sales to increase revenues to help gov'ts pay for all of the extra police manpower required to control them?

The Democrats have done such a good job of running Detroit for the last 60 years...
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I would also like to point out the fallacy of "extra police" - It has been extremely well established that when citizens can defend themselves crime rates are lower and less police intervention is required.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Should an extra tax be levied on all weapon and ammo sales to increase revenues to help gov'ts pay for all of the extra police manpower required to control them?

On 10/2012, a Chicago Cook County official has proposed a surtax on the sale of every bullet and firearm in the nation’s second largest county. The tax was proposed as part of the upcoming budget in an effort to quell escalating gun violence in the Chicago area.

The proposal, which is under fire (pardon the pun) from gun rights advocates, includes a 5-cent tax on the sale of every bullet and a $25 tax for the sale of every firearm. If it were to pass, the tax would generate about $1 million in annual revenue.

There’s no indication that slapping taxes on legal behavior prevents illegal behavior. Taxes on booze don’t stop drunks from getting into cars and killing people (or committing other crimes). So let’s call this tax what it really is: a revenue raiser. It’s a sin tax on gun ownership. Whether that’s fair is another story but at least that rationalization for the tax makes sense.

A lot of municipal and state gov'ts are struggling to manage budget shortfalls. There are extra taxes on alcohol and cigarettes, why not guns and ammo? AR15 style rifles, large capacity clips and hollow point bullets could be taxed at a much higher rate.

It is proven that higher taxes, over a long time frame, reduced cigarette consumption, maybe higher taxes can do the same for guns and ammo?

[BLADE]

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a bullet proof towel would of been a good option. I wonder how many folk with guns to protect them have bullet proof vests as an option, at least for the kids

[Darren King]

Re: Gun Control

And if he didn't have a hand gun she would have died from a blow to the head with a freaking hammer. Damn.

And if she had a gun to PROTECT herself from this guy she would be alive today.?

We can just go round and round on this one can't we??

Ummmmmmm.......... A gun killed her, unexpectedly, through a closed door. How, exactly would having a gun have helped her?
Also, a "freaking hammer" didn't kill her, a gun did. No going round and round here. lol

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Mr Bill, you can speculate, I am talking the facts. A handgun, one that was apparently stored loaded on the floor, under a bed, killed Oscar Pistorius's girl friend. Maybe if the gun was properly secured, Oscar would have had time to awaken from his unfounded panic to realize there were no intruders in his home and not shot his girl friend seven times dead.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that a couple should arm themselves against each other?

[BLADE]

Re: Gun Control

bathroom shootout

[MR Bill]

Re: Gun Control

And if he didn't have a hand gun she would have died from a blow to the head with a freaking hammer. Damn.

And if she had a gun to PROTECT herself from this guy she would be alive today.?

We can just go round and round on this one can't we??

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Gun Control

I have recently read that if the US Federal Gov't were to make biometrics mandatory for hand guns there is a strong case that such a law would not violate any 2A rights.

The tragic case of Oscar Pistorius shooting his girl friend to death with a 9 mm handgun is further proof that such weapons can be as dangerous to those who reside in a home as it is to intruders.

[Shadow1]

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I know the technology is not there yet... <Snip>

...and the first and only time that technology fails may result in the homicide of my son or daughter. Not worth it - 2nd Amendment - Zero excuses. I will not be held accountable for the actions of a criminal. I will not have my right to protect my family removed because someone else can't get their mental status sorted. Protecting my family is priority one - Period... and that includes from my own government, and the aforementioned people who have a screw loose.