Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Yes

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  • fixthecopier
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    Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Yes

    The service manager where I work knows his job well, to the point of arrogance. He is the one you hate to have to ask for help, because when you are not there, well, he tends to make everything everybody elses fault. When he fucks up, we all enjoy it. Example... I took a call on a Lanier LD150 and had an issue with print quality. After he went out, he pronounced it my fault, and he fixed it, Then we wound up pulling the machine and went through 2 loaners before he fixed it at the shop. Still my fault.

    So now we have a Bizhub 600. This particular 600 is no stranger to copytechnet. It is the one I started the bad paper thread on. So needless to say, it was not the paper.

    After I thought i had got the problem resolved, I walked down the hall 2 weeks later to check it and found paper stuck in the cleaning section. I could not make it stop. I go to another 600 in the building and pull the whole drum carriage and put in. I am sitting on the floor with the door open watching it run. Runs great for 250 pages. Then I get up and look at the copies. HOLY SHIT, these look like shit. Thiere is a huge shaded pattern on the pages, as dark as if you didn't have the charge down all the way. I pull and swap charges, no change. I pull the drum claw rack off and put it on the original carriage and put in, and now that pattern is gone from dark to very light. A large area, from top to bottm of page, in no predictable pattern.

    Now to shorten this tale, I changed and swapped all the basics in the field, both power supplies, drum, developer, charge, transfer ect. It took forever to get the service manager out there, as he just kept guessing and telling me to change shit, while I was getting deeper and deeper in calls. After his second visit to my machine didn't work, he had it pulled. Now for the past week and a half he has been writhing in pain at the shop, having swapped every thing , and some things twice, like entire ADU, drum shaft ect, while being heckled by the other techs.

    I wasn't asking for help on this, because it is no longer my problem, although when it is resolved, I am sure I will have been the cause of it. Karma is a bitch!
    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking
  • Akitu
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    Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

    Originally posted by fixthecopier
    I wasn't asking for help on this, because it is no longer my problem, although when it is resolved, I am sure I will have been the cause of it. Karma is a bitch!
    Isn't that the point of a manager? Bean counting and assigning blame?

    Sounds like he's getting what's been coming for a while.
    Cthulhu for president! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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    • blackcat4866
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      Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

      I love it. You'll have to practice your "blank look" for when he solves it for the 10th time and it's still not fixed. Congratulate him on his success with the blank look. He'll really wonder then. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • fixthecopier
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        Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        I love it. You'll have to practice your "blank look" for when he solves it for the 10th time and it's still not fixed. Congratulate him on his success with the blank look. He'll really wonder then. =^..^=

        As soon as it came back to the shop, I suggested he swap the counters, and serial numbers and put the working parts on the machine he is using for parts and send it back out. I was joking, he now wishes he had done it.

        Tech support told him to call the DSM. The first time we were introduced to our new DSM, he was sitting next to one of our techs in a training class. Ha, Ha, Ha.
        The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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        • Shadow1
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          Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

          You should probably ask him point blank if there's any way to make him stop covering his a$$ with yours... then practice the blank look when he gets pissed.
          73 DE W5SSJ

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          • fixthecopier
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            Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

            Originally posted by Shadow1
            You should probably ask him point blank if there's any way to make him stop covering his a$$ with yours... then practice the blank look when he gets pissed.

            I am not the least bit shy about expressing myself. When the manager said to me in front of the owner and a couple of others, in reference to the Lanier I was having issue with, "David said it was your fault", I loudly replied "Hell I knew that. after all, I drive by that building a couple of times a week, that must make it my fault. Besides, last time I delivered toner, I think I accidently touched the top of it." Then after it came back to the shop, I would walk by him at least once a day and say "I could tell you how to fix it, but then you would never learn anything"
            The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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            • TonerMunkeh
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              It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

              Hit it.

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              • vincent64
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                Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                just wanted to drop a couple cents worth of chat in here, at least you have one you can have that banter with, the last one i had, dont think it would fly, when the BEI was brought out to us, I asked about a call just like the Doc feeder call you had, cause it happend, to me, high dollar client, new feed rollers in DF, few days later, DF jamming, paper clip in it, I asked how can we fix stupid...guess what the answer was....blank look, shrugged shoulders, and finaly better key opping of the custumer...any reason I got out of there

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                • bipc
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                  Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                  well my manager is like yours too, anything "wrong" is my fault, "you dont know s**t, go find a solution", i end up having to get a fix on top of the knee (error trial mode), when it's fixed he calles the general product manager to be congratulated for his discovery of the solution and not even a "good job", that's why sometimes i let him agonize with some simple problem and then rubb the solution slowly in his face (i know it's wrong but man it feels so good)
                  Life is a learning continuum...

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                  • fixthecopier
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                    Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                    Originally posted by bipc
                    well my manager is like yours too, anything "wrong" is my fault, "you dont know s**t, go find a solution", i end up having to get a fix on top of the knee (error trial mode), when it's fixed he calles the general product manager to be congratulated for his discovery of the solution and not even a "good job", that's why sometimes i let him agonize with some simple problem and then rubb the solution slowly in his face (i know it's wrong but man it feels so good)
                    Did I mention that my service manager is the owners brother?

                    Welcome to my world.

                    Might be why I got wrote up that year I threatened to beat his ass.
                    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                    • mikadonovan
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                      Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      Congratulate him on his success with the blank look.
                      You gotta love the classic "blank look". I use that myself on occasion.
                      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                      • fixthecopier
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                        Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                        Update... The manager has completely killed the machine. In desperation he started swapping all the boards, and wound up bending some pins on the nvram and now has the hour glass of death stuck on the screen. Kind of makes it worth showing up in the morning just to see it sitting there.
                        The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                        • Akitu
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                          Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                          Now this is the point where you turn the tables on him and play bean counter.
                          Cthulhu for president! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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                          • CompyTech
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                            Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                            This is when you tell him " Man, It's got to be a board problem..."

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                            • fixthecopier
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                              Re: Is it OK to laugh at my service manager getting owned by one of my machines?...Ye

                              He is now reaping the bad karma he has put out. The Lanier that I mentioned in the first post is back. The day after the fourth of July, with hal the techs gone, I had another call there. It would jam in the finisher about every 250 to 300 sheets, bunching up in the stacker, with one corner of the led edge folded. Kind of a hard one to see. I ran up the customers job and told her I would check with other techs who may be more familiar with the problem on Monday, and we would be back.

                              Manager at shop didn't understand why I couldn't fix it on first visit, or why tech support couldn't tell me how to fix it. So she gave the ticket to another tech on Monday. This made me happy. Other tech said she went and ran 600 copies with no problem. Then they called back yesterday, and the service manager went and said he ran a bunch of copies and had no problem.

                              Then they called back at the end of the day and demanded the finisher be replaced. When I went in this morning the manager was quizzing the tech who went after me. Then she ask me what could be wrong. That is when I brought out the blank stare, and shrugged my shoulders. "I dunno"

                              Service manager comes in and gets handed the problem, told to swap finishers. Tech #2 goes to warehouse and test one. Service manager takes it, and it is broke when he gets there.Once he got it running and left, they called back. He leaves and gets another call back, and then a third.

                              Acccording to my daughter, who now works the front desk, the asshole was still trying to say it ws my fault,to which she replied, "Are you insane?"

                              "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW"
                              The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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