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  • fixthecopier
    ALIEN OVERLORD

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 4714

    #1

    Working behind other techs...

    I tried to kill the call as soon as I got it. It was for an HP DJ1055. It is an hour and a half away. I called the customer and was told that there had been at least 3 other techs working on it. He said there were boxes of parts. The machine is under a third party contract, so they want it fixed.

    The machine is at a Corp of Engineers site on the coast, so I had to wade through sea water to get to the building. The machine boots to the 0B0006 code, which tells me the ribbon had been disconnected at some point. I now have to put on my detective hat and figure out what 3 other "techs" did before me.

    The clues are...

    A shiny new belt on the plotter
    An electronics module for a 1050 [wrong plotter]
    An electronics module for a 1055, looks used

    I assume the following...

    First tech changed the belt and blew the fuse, but was clueless.
    Next guy assumes he has a bad electronics module, doesn't know the difference between the 2 models, orders wrong module.
    Tech #3 gets the correct module, instals it, and instantly blows fuse, gives up.

    Based on clue #1, I assume the first guy dicked up the ribbon cable. I take apart enough to get to the carriage, and find 1 of the 3 ribbons not plugged in.

    Now I need a fuse. The tiny 10/125 fuse HP uses cannot be found. It is only half an inch long. I have tried everywhere. I bought some regular fuses and kind of remember having this same issue years ago. I think I made the larger fuse work, but would feel better with the correct part. Does anybody have a source for these?



    Also on the subject of going behind another tech, I was having a hell of a time trying to program a shredder with tech support help, until I noticed that the previous tech had put the control panel on backwards, and all of the icons were on the wrong side.

    Nothing sharpens your skills like working behind another tech.
    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking
  • allan
    RTFM!!

    5,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 5459

    #2
    Re: Working behind other techs...

    That sound like my job! always fixing behind somone else. Pay peanuts you get monkeys.
    Whatever

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    • fixthecopier
      ALIEN OVERLORD

      2,500+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 4714

      #3
      Re: Working behind other techs...

      Originally posted by allan
      That sound like my job! always fixing behind somone else. Pay peanuts you get monkeys.

      My contact said they were dispatching techs from Staples.
      The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22930

        #4
        Re: Working behind other techs...

        I think this is what you want:


        =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • ZOOTECH
          Senior member of CRS

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 3374

          #5
          Re: Working behind other techs...

          I think he needs one of these for the previous techs.
          Tractor Supply Co. - Enjoy browsing:Livestock Prods
          "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22930

            #6
            Re: Working behind other techs...

            Originally posted by fixthecopier
            I assume the following...

            First tech changed the belt and blew the fuse, but was clueless.
            Next guy assumes he has a bad electronics module, doesn't know the difference between the 2 models, orders wrong module.
            Tech #3 gets the correct module, instals it, and instantly blows fuse, gives up.
            This is the part I don't get. Who the hell said you could give up!

            That's the main thing I have going for me. I don't give up, no matter how many times I get it wrong. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • bob marley
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2012
              • 1339

              #7
              Re: Working behind other techs...

              I agree with u ,working behind other tech. is just like a challenge but could be waste of time
              Live for yourself and you will live in vain. Live for others, and you will live again

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              • fixthecopier
                ALIEN OVERLORD

                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2008
                • 4714

                #8
                Re: Working behind other techs...

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                This is the part I don't get. Who the hell said you could give up!

                That's the main thing I have going for me. I don't give up, no matter how many times I get it wrong. =^..^=


                Thanks for the fuse link BC. Local electronics shop and Grainger didn't have them.

                As for the idiot techs who preceded me, the old saying READ THE FUCKING MANUAL would apply. Even if you have never worked on one of these, if you look that code up in the manual what does it say? It tells you to check those cables.

                Another example of what preceded me, the electronics module for the 1050 had been disassembled. ??? All the boards had been taken off, as though he was going to make it work somehow.

                Also the original call was for the auto paper feeder it sits on not working. For me that was the smallest issue. I told one of the guys to sit it on cinder blocks and use the old spindle. They were thinking the same thing. We shall see once I get it running.

                As far as those boys giving up, you should know your limitations. If you look at a project and it's over your head, admit it and save the next guy a lot of headaches. I work on shredders for JSOC. They have one that has it's own building. It turns books to dust. Has 5 or 6 steel blades that weigh about 25 to 30 pounds each and have to be removed, sharpened and reinstalled and calibrated every couple of months. They wanted me to take over service of it. I declined.
                The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                • Iowatech
                  Not a service manager

                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3930

                  #9
                  Re: Working behind other techs...

                  Originally posted by fixthecopier
                  As far as those boys giving up, you should know your limitations. If you look at a project and it's over your head, admit it and save the next guy a lot of headaches. I work on shredders for JSOC. They have one that has it's own building. It turns books to dust. Has 5 or 6 steel blades that weigh about 25 to 30 pounds each and have to be removed, sharpened and reinstalled and calibrated every couple of months. They wanted me to take over service of it. I declined.
                  I get to see civilian shredders every once in a while, but never anything that big or thorough (the largest one I've worked on would turn telephone books into confetti).
                  Still, as far as big shredders go, you might enjoy this:

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                  • cccjjn
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 81

                    #10
                    Re: Working behind other techs...

                    Back in the day a single strand of 00 steel wool strategically placed would work as a temporary fix in a pinch. Ah..... the good old days.

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