[WTF] Respect

[C.Vallon]

This is just a vent, a rant or rave. Needed to get it off my chest.

Respect is a two way street, it cannot be expected or demanded if it is not shown or given in return. It is unrealistic to assume otherwise.

I bring this up as lately, I feel I have done nothing but show respect toward others and in the end, tend to be treated poorly, given an attitude or just down trodded. I've bitten my tongue for the most part, but it does get annoying and leaving me feeling rather poor.

Its just a vent, a rant. But I needed to put it out there. As I mentioned, respect is a two way street. I can only give so much before I run to the end of my own road...

[allan]

Re: Respect

Are you referring to peers at work?

[blackcat4866]

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Are you referring to peers at work?

I think he means us, allan.

Service techs as a group do tend to be smart-asses, myself included. I really have only two things to offer you:
1) Kill them with kindness. As satisfying as it might be to get angry and wave your arms, it doesn't help. Smile ... and move on.
2) As a group technicians are exposed to quite a lot of negative feelings from our customers. As a result we must learn to let it slide off. At one of the locations I worked, we had a Xerox console copier behind the building. When I'd had a bad day I would grab the 5# sledge hammer and beat on the Xerox for 20 or 30 minutes. It's excellent therapy after fixing stuff all day.

Smile. Be happy. =^..^=

[subaro]

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One day, you may become the top dog and have others under your wings. You will look back and know the feelings or resentment the ones you are guiding along and see you been there too. It's all part of the learning curve and you have to have your wits about you and determination to succeed.
You know, some of the ones that does not want to move on will try to discourage you for you to join them in becoming lethargic. The sooner you see through that and shrug it off, you will have more time to focus on other things.
You are a rookie so to speak right now, that will not always be. Look back at the newbie thread and ponder a bit there.

[allan]

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Ok yea then i'm guilty as well. I guess a I'm getting older and the new guys younger, not everybody has got the same approach to things and i really like my way because it tends to work.

It must admit i don't loose it so easily these days, just shake my head and move on.
Never tried a sledgy before, i would love to beat the @#$& out of a BH36.

If you are younger and sharper than older the guys, you are going to get a bit of it.

[nmfaxman]

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Sorry to say, but respect is earned, not gained.
Treat everyone as you would like to be treated.
If they DIS you, they have no respect for themselves.

Take everything with a grain of salt.
Some people are not worth your time.

[jmaister]

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1) Kill them with kindness. As satisfying as it might be to get angry and wave your arms, it doesn't help. Smile ... and move on.
Smile. Be happy. =^..^=

This is so true.

I started new 5 years ago, and this is exactly how i felt. Now, I'm yielding alot more because i was kinda taught(situationally cornered, and i know my place now) to think about the big picture. Bottom line is, everyone has to put in the time to earn that respect as mentioned.

tough, but you be a better person after, if you choose to.

[mongo]

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After reading this post its BS about earning respect. I've been in this field since 1986, from working for someone to owning my own business. Its not earning respect its what have you done fore me lately, from employers to customer. Customer are the true boss. I have to agree with blackcat most good techs are smart ass that just the personality type to walk in a customer office and deal with upset customers. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield some days "I don't get no respect!" but thats part of live. Mongo

[subaro]

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I think the way he worded his post is very unclear about what he is saying really. Without actually describing the situations it's like playing both side of the fence.
Or maybe he just need some attention. I replied earlier on this thread really to encourage him to focus on becoming a sound tech. Abuse is diffrent from respect as respect can vary widely as to whom is doing the interpretation.
Example. in construction sites, swearing is quite normal with most of he guys there, and people who don't like it has the choice either to ignore or leave. Can you really change those guys to stop swearing. i don't think so. so this respect thing can be misconstrued without proper detailed description.

[allan]

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[Coptech]

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You can't be too thin skinned in this industry. I have a theory that I call the "controlled explosion philosophy". Basically, you spend your whole day listening to complaints. Never a positive interaction. (well rarely). You have to deal with that and in the same breath put on a smile and a happy face for the customers that are ranting, holding you personally responsible for their dissatisfaction with their machine, and generally unloading on you because you represent a hiccup in their work day. A person cannot hold that all in. So rather than taking up "serial killing" , techs tend to vent. I prefer it be in the shop, in the car, on a forum such as this...anywhere that does not affect the working relationship with the cash cow (customer). Hence the name "controlled explosion". We are not assholes by nature or by breed, the occupation makes us that way. So, when someone barks a short answer to you, consider my theory and take it for what it is worth. A better answer will come along either from someone else or even the same person after they have gotten some of the steam pressure released.

[theengel]

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You're in an industry that is predominately male. You'll need a pair.

[subaro]

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You're in an industry that is predominately male. You'll need a pair.

When the baby is crying, you have to know what he is crying for to keep him/her quiet[ most times it's a bottle ]but could be teething, who knows. I think mr. vallon owes an explanation as to actually what is bothering him.
He don't have to use real names and locations ect. but give us something that is worthy to respond to.
As of now, i don't see any validity to this thread and it's really a tower of babel.

Nuff respect. yea man.

edit.. As the saying goes, who is in the kitchen feels the heat. so maybe he does not want to step on toes and to be seen as a complainer, and if so then he should confide in family or close friends ,not on a public forum as to the response from complainers too.

[C.Vallon]

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Thank you all for the responses to this post, I hadn't actually been watching it after my vent (which once posted, helped clear the storm clouds off my mind). I would have paid closer attention, I just assumed I'd get the usual emails saying "A reply to such and such thread", I didn't and just assumed people took a look, moved on and left it at that. It wasn't until this afternoon that I actually had a few spare moments to research the forums and take it easy that I realized all of you had offered some insight.

I understand I may have been unclear, the rant wasn't based on anyone in general, but more a generalized groan. I had been feeling unappropriated on both personal and professional levels and felt that when I was reaching out to those I thought I should be able to reach out to, that I was being ignored, insulted or just blown off. It felt like I was being set up for failure.

I spoke to a few people about it, decided to "shrug it off" and move on, always doing my best to smile and be respectful my self as it's the type of person I enjoy being. I hate being upset, pissed off or just a bad person to be around, a smile and good attitude goes a lot farther than a sour one. So, with that in mind I voiced my concerns to the few people that I had thought I was failing or lacking respectful attitudes in return. At the end of the day, it was simply the way I perceived things to be.

As it was mentioned earlier, I am a rookie in the field and while I enjoy it far more than I have any right to, I am still in the stages of learning, and at times that curve can be a bit steep, we all have our strengths and weaknesses, what works for another, may not work for me. And that's fine. I had simply put too much pressure on my self, thinking failure was unacceptable and a thing that could not be allowed, this did nothing but cause me to create more stress on my self and put me in a rather bad mindset, once I realized I was just at fault as any other, the issue was easy enough to fix.

This of course doesn't go to say that there is no disrespect out there, be it in the field, our offices, home lives or any other aspect of our life. It's just part of life and people may at times both cause disrespect simply to be malicious, while others they may simply just be just as upset and frustrated as me or you, to blame and hold a grudge over that, would just be immature on my part.

The best advice, and this doesn't mean the only bit of advice I've taken from all you awesome folks, but the one that resonated with me the most was simple and short. "Just be happy".

Again, thanks. The support you all show as a community is awesome, I do apologize for any confusion or misleading information I may have originally presented, it wasn't the intention. At the time of posting I was storming in my own little world with that dark cloud over my head just thundering away.

[tech28]

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Very good points, respect takes years to earn from customers, and can be lost in one conversation. Our motto, "Treat people like you would like to be treated" If you live life as such, you will never go wrong because your conscience and piece of mind will be with you. Just a couple of thoughts.