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  • jonezy999
    just one copy??

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    • Feb 2010
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    #16
    Re: manuals 4 you

    Originally posted by manuals4you
    Are you on drugs? Please tell me which ones so I know what to stay from.

    Paul
    Dunno if ya could call in drugs, but I do sniff Y M C K cocaine based toner all day long.
    I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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    • ZOOTECH
      Senior member of CRS

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      #17
      Re: manuals 4 you

      Originally posted by jonezy999
      Dunno if ya could call in drugs, but I do sniff Y M C K cocaine based toner all day long.
      Is that generic or OEM?
      "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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      • mjarbar

        #18
        Re: manuals 4 you

        Originally posted by ZOOTECH
        Is that generic or OEM?
        Must be OEM, generic is cut to much and you don't know what your getting in it!!!

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        • mrwho
          Major Asshole!

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          #19
          Re: manuals 4 you

          Funny to read this when just the other day, after cleaning up a messy color machine, I quite literally sneezed a rainbow mucus of sort - It's funny how something that is usually gross can be so beautiful sometimes.

          Then I flushed.
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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          • mjarbar

            #20
            Re: manuals 4 you

            Originally posted by mrwho
            Funny to read this when just the other day, after cleaning up a messy color machine, I quite literally sneezed a rainbow mucus of sort - It's funny how something that is usually gross can be so beautiful sometimes.

            Then I flushed.
            That is just more detail than anybody wanted to know - ever!!!

            But getting back to the topic it is good to know that if I needed a manual he is there to help, especially on the older machines that come up out of the arc from time to time.

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            • prntrfxr
              Service Manager

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              • Apr 2008
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              #21
              Re: manuals 4 you

              He has to have something to do all day. Although his posts are irritating at times (especially when the answer to the particular question isn't in the manual), I find they are easy to ignore and he has occasionally helped me out with a manual or two I couldn't find anywhere.
              Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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              • TheOwl
                Service Manager

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                • Nov 2008
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                #22
                Re: manuals 4 you

                Ever notice how 80% of questions can be answered by a service manual?
                Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                • kingarthur
                  Service Manager

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                  • Feb 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: manuals 4 you

                  Originally posted by TheOwl
                  Ever notice how 80% of questions can be answered by a service manual?
                  That may be true....but have you noticed how many people can't be bothered to read the manuals in the 1st place..they come on here & expect somebody to solve the problem for them...or even worse..ask what page in the manual they should be looking at..now that is taking the p*ss
                  Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                  • jotunn
                    Senior Tech

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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #24
                    Re: manuals 4 you

                    Originally posted by prntrfxr
                    He has to have something to do all day.
                    Yeah, maybe something legal, for a change...

                    Originally posted by prntrfxr
                    Although his posts are irritating at times (especially when the answer to the particular question isn't in the manual), I find they are easy to ignore and he has occasionally helped me out with a manual or two I couldn't find anywhere.
                    Call it by name - it's just trolling. Doing something like him, I would keep my mouth shut up, not just write stupid comments in all the threads.

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                    • pacman
                      I can turn a screw...

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                      • Apr 2009
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                      #25
                      Re: manuals 4 you

                      He's definitely helped me out!

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                      • jotunn
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                        #26
                        Re: manuals 4 you

                        Yeah, telling the truth here means loosing rep points... nice :/

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                        • mrwho
                          Major Asshole!

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                          #27
                          Re: manuals 4 you

                          Originally posted by jotunn
                          Yeah, telling the truth here means loosing rep points... nice :/
                          Well, the "truth" is relative. It's you opinion, I'll give you that, and you've got a right to it. The truth? Maybe yes, maybe no.

                          As for M4Y, he can be an ass sometimes (check my profile page), but he's definitely helped me out and, just for that, he can post/troll/spam all he wants, since he worked to deserve it - which is more than some people on this forum can claim.
                          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                          Mascan42

                          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                          Ibid

                          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                          • jotunn
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                            #28
                            Re: manuals 4 you

                            Originally posted by mrwho
                            Well, the "truth" is relative. It's you opinion, I'll give you that, and you've got a right to it. The truth? Maybe yes, maybe no.

                            As for M4Y, he can be an ass sometimes (check my profile page), but he's definitely helped me out and, just for that, he can post/troll/spam all he wants, since he worked to deserve it - which is more than some people on this forum can claim.
                            OK, let's talk about that relative "truth", maybe I was wrong in my opinion. Then I will say "sorry" to M4U for everything I wrote about him. At this moment I can say sorry for being too offensive and calling all of his comments as stupid. In fact some of them may be helpful, some people says that they were.

                            First part of my post (about legality) was a kind of sarcasm, but was based on a fact, not just opinion - or maybe at this point I was wrong? Any written permission for selling manuals? If not... there is no relativity.
                            Yes, his "business" may be useful, we can even tolerate it - especially on this forum (oh, he's a donator - kind of bribe?), but this is still an "underground" and doesn't mean allowing for everything.

                            His help... we have to distinguish between selling a manual and calling this situation "help" and giving competent, based on experience answers leading to solving problem
                            This leads us to other thing - sharing knowledge for free - it's a basis of this forum, but sharing manuals isn't well perceived, because that kind of knowledge shouldn't be distributed among customers.
                            On the other hand, the same manuals can be bought by the same customers from M4U - hypocrisy...

                            The last thing, as you said mrwho, I got right to write my opinions - famous freedom of speech, so I'm curious who has deleted my reputation points because of my comment?
                            They were given to me by satisfied users of this forum, nobody should modify them because someone feels miffed.

                            P.S.
                            I'm sorry for any mistakes in my English, I have not enough occasion to practice.
                            Last edited by jotunn; 02-01-2012, 10:09 PM. Reason: mistake ;)

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                            • Eric1968
                              Service Manager

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                              #29
                              Re: manuals 4 you

                              Originally posted by jotunn
                              OK, let's talk about that relative "truth", maybe I was wrong in my opinion. Then I will say "sorry" to M4U for everything I wrote about him. At this moment I can say sorry for being too offensive and calling all of his comments as stupid. In fact some of them may be helpful, some people says that they were.

                              First part of my post (about legality) was a kind of sarcasm, but was based on a fact, not just opinion - or maybe at this point I was wrong? Any written permission for selling manuals? If not... there is no relativity.
                              Yes, his "business" may be useful, we can even tolerate it - especially on this forum (oh, he's a donator - kind of bribe?), but this is still an "underground" and doesn't mean allowing for everything.

                              His help... we have to distinguish between selling a manual and calling this situation "help" and giving competent, based on experience answers leading to solving problem
                              This leads us to other thing - sharing knowledge for free - it's a basis of this forum, but sharing manuals isn't well perceived, because that kind of knowledge shouldn't be distributed among customers.
                              On the other hand, the same manuals can be bought by the same customers from M4U - hypocrisy...

                              The last thing, as you said mrwho, I got right to write my opinions - famous freedom of speech, so I'm curious who has deleted my reputation points because of my comment?
                              They were given to me by satisfied users of this forum, nobody should modify them because someone feels miffed.

                              P.S.
                              I'm sorry for any mistakes in my English, I have not enough occasion to practice.
                              Like I said in a previous post in this thread, he's paying to place his ads here. If you're paying money, you also can place your ads here and try to make some money. Don't make such a big deal out of this.

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                              • mrwho
                                Major Asshole!

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                                #30
                                Re: manuals 4 you

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                OK, let's talk about that relative "truth", maybe I was wrong in my opinion. Then I will say "sorry" to M4U for everything I wrote about him. At this moment I can say sorry for being too offensive and calling all of his comments as stupid. In fact some of them may be helpful, some people says that they were.
                                Like any publicity, it can be annoying. You can either use it (if you find it useful), ignore it (if it doesn't interest you) or "change the channel" (if it bothers you).

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                First part of my post (about legality) was a kind of sarcasm, but was based on a fact, not just opinion - or maybe at this point I was wrong? Any written permission for selling manuals? If not... there is no relativity.
                                Sometimes my wife yells at some dork doing some illegal maneuver in front of our car. I usually tell her "You're no police officer, so there's no use worrying about it". I tell you the same - unless you're some owner or owner's representative, it doesn't relate to you or me. Forget about it.

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                (oh, he's a donator - kind of bribe?)
                                No - he pays for the right of publicizing on this forum. His - and other's - payment is what allows you and me to use this forum for free.

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                His help... we have to distinguish between selling a manual and calling this situation "help" and giving competent, based on experience answers leading to solving problem
                                If he sells you a manual that you can't get otherwise and you're willing to pay for, I'd call that "help".

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                This leads us to other thing - sharing knowledge for free - it's a basis of this forum, but sharing manuals isn't well perceived, because that kind of knowledge shouldn't be distributed among customers.
                                On the other hand, the same manuals can be bought by the same customers from M4U - hypocrisy...
                                Not at all. A customer usually is not willing to pay for a manual if he only has one machine to look after and he doesn't have any other training besides said manual. A tech, on the other hand, can easily dilute the expense of buying that manual if he has several machines from that make and model.

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                The last thing, as you said mrwho, I got right to write my opinions - famous freedom of speech, so I'm curious who has deleted my reputation points because of my comment?
                                They were given to me by satisfied users of this forum, nobody should modify them because someone feels miffed.
                                Although it wasn't me, let me clarify something: As you've got the right to express your opinions, others also have the same right of expressing their feelings about what you say - either posting (like I'm doing) or giving/taking rep points (like someone else did).

                                Originally posted by jotunn
                                P.S.
                                I'm sorry for any mistakes in my English, I have not enough occasion to practice.
                                Same here.
                                ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                                Mascan42

                                'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                                Ibid

                                I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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