Compatible Toner

[BillyCarpenter]

I've been using toner from Static Control with zero problems and I've gone thru many of them. Very happy.

Today I was talking to a guy in Dallas that owns a major compatible cartridge business. We talked for about an hour and he told me about a Japanese company called: Tomoegawa. He says they are the biggest (locations all over the world) and the best makers of compatible toner. I've been researching them and they are definitely a huge company. I'm gonna order some samples and see how they work. Anyone ever heard of them?

[bsm2]

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Mono printers and copiers machines maybe
We used in Kyocera mono machines worked but blacks not as dark. Only had to replaced one Developer unit.
Color printers and copier machines Never recommended.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Mono printers and copiers machines maybe
We used in Kyocera mono machines worked but blacks not as dark. Only had to replaced one Developer unit.
Color printers and copier machines Never

You simply haven't used the right brand color toner. You can't tell Static Control's toner apart from Kyocera Brand. And if you've never tried it. you really don't know. No offense intended but I've been doing this for a long time.


And that goes for other brands like HP, Lexmark, ect.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Anyone can choose to believe this or not:


The problem with compatible toner is that there so many bad toners out there that it gives the entire industry a bad name. Toner isn't some magical powder that can't be duplicated. If a company has the resources and expertise, I've seen with my own eyes cases that they made a superior toner compared to the Genuine Toner. True.

[BillyCarpenter]

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BTW: Thus far (I think) Phil is the only one that's ever heard of Static Control but it is right in his backyard.

[BillyCarpenter]

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On other note: Stay away from Chinese toner. Especially the color toner. You can use once, maybe twice, and then you'll notice that DV, transfer belt and other components will start to wear prematurely.

[JLSam]

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We've been using KATUN for a while now along with OEM.

We had issues with the 560NT toners, but they fixed their formula in the new 561nt toners... And we've stopped having those under/Overtone issues.

But other than that, pretty solid toners.

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[Hansoon]

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On other note: Stay away from Chinese toner. Especially the color toner. You can use once, maybe twice, and then you'll notice that DV, transfer belt and other components will start to wear prematurely.

The problem with Chinese toner is - as with almost all non-OEM stuff from China - that even if you once had a good product, constant quality is not guaranteed. Most of the Chinese sellers are not the original producers but just agents. They pick and collect toner and parts obviously from here and there as it suits them. Noticeable by the ever changing way of packing of the products. Had once pickup rollers for KonicaMinolta which where really very good. Lasting almost as long as the OEM stuff, but the next order they where completely different. Looking very similar but a different packing and they where lasting only 25K when they had to be replaced.

Another problem with those agents is that most of them have no technical knowledge of the stuff they sell. Our company tried once cleaning blades from China. They came and looked OK which they probably where, more or less, but...... on the packing was stated not "Cleaning Blade for KonicaMinolta" but "Roller" Nothing else but only the one word "Roller".

Once we tried drums for BH-C-280. On the outside of the packing was indeed stated "Drum for C280" though without any further reference such as part number. Inside the carton tubes however where sometimes drums for the BH-C-280 but at the same time a few very different drums. Those where drums for the BH-C-353. Packing and the few markings exactly the same but inside two different types of drums.

There will be for sure suppliers in China for good stuff, but they are hard to find.

Hans

[copier tech]

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I've been using toner from Static Control with zero problems and I've gone thru many of them. Very happy.

Today I was talking to a guy in Dallas that owns a major compatible cartridge business. We talked for about an hour and he told me about a Japanese company called: Tomoegawa. He says they are the biggest (locations all over the world) and the best makers of compatible toner. I've been researching them and they are definitely a huge company. I'm gonna order some samples and see how they work. Anyone ever heard of them?

What brand do you run this compatible toner on?

[BillyCarpenter]

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[BillyCarpenter]

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What brand do you run this compatible toner on?

I used to own a compatible cartridge business where we rebuilt the toner cartridges ourselves. We had a very large market share in our area including NASA (Stennis Space Center), almost every school district in our area and many others. We have rebuilt thousands of toner cartridges over a very wide range of brands: Lexmark, Dell, HP, Xerox, Kyocera, and others.

Now I am only refilling Kyocera toner cartridges. Refilling is much different from rebuilding. Since I had previously been in the business for many years, I knew what company to use for toner. There are many companies out there to buy toner from, there's only about 3 that that I trust.

In my experience there's a lot of bad information out there about compatibles because someone had a bad experience with compatibles and that made them believe that the whole compatible industry was junk. Simply not true.

I don't want to get too deep into this but toner has changed over the years. HP toner is now chemically grown and the particles are much smaller with better quality. Static control makes it the same way. They are a really good company. If they make it, you can trust it.

[scanmc]

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I used to own a compatible cartridge business where we rebuilt the toner cartridges ourselves. We had a very large market share in our area including NASA (Stennis Space Center), almost every school district in our area and many others. We have rebuilt thousands of toner cartridges over a very wide range of brands: Lexmark, Dell, HP, Xerox, Kyocera, and others.

Now I am only refilling Kyocera toner cartridges. Refilling is much different from rebuilding. Since I had previously been in the business for many years, I knew what company to use for toner. There are many companies out there to buy toner from, there's only about 3 that that I trust.

In my experience there's a lot of bad information out there about compatibles because someone had a bad experience with compatibles and that made them believe that the whole compatible industry was junk. Simply not true.

I don't want to get too deep into this but toner has changed over the years. HP toner is now chemically grown and the particles are much smaller with better quality. Static control makes it the same way. They are a really good company. If they make it, you can trust it.

Back in the early 80's I would pickup probably a 1,000 bottles 3.2 oz dry magnetic toner along with several bottles of toner & developer to make pm kits for the sharp 726 & 740 series machines at the Tomegawa IL plant. It was crazy to see the workers coming through the doors from the manufacturing part of the plant into the dock area covered in black toner dust. My father was a coal miner and developed black lung from 25 yrs of mining. I'm sure things have gotten better as far as safety in that these plants, But working back then who knows what type of health issue those workers have developed later in life.

[BillyCarpenter]

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After making many phone calls to Tomoegawa's USA office, it turns out they make toner for a couple of the OEM's. He didn't say which ones and I didn't ask but while doing my online research, I did see where they had made transactions with Canon and another OEM...can't recall which one.

Anyway, he asked me if I was looking for drums of toner. Of course I said no. lol He's gonna email me a product catalog and I plan on ordering some samples.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Back in the early 80's I would pickup probably a 1,000 bottles 3.2 oz dry magnetic toner along with several bottles of toner & developer to make pm kits for the sharp 726 & 740 series machines at the Tomegawa IL plant. It was crazy to see the workers coming through the doors from the manufacturing part of the plant into the dock area covered in black toner dust. My father was a coal miner and developed black lung from 25 yrs of mining. I'm sure things have gotten better as far as safety in that these plants, But working back then who knows what type of health issue those workers have developed later in life.

The Illinois location is the place that I called this morning.

[copiertec]

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I've been using toner from Static Control with zero problems and I've gone thru many of them. Very happy.

Today I was talking to a guy in Dallas that owns a major compatible cartridge business. We talked for about an hour and he told me about a Japanese company called: Tomoegawa. He says they are the biggest (locations all over the world) and the best makers of compatible toner. I've been researching them and they are definitely a huge company. I'm gonna order some samples and see how they work. Anyone ever heard of them?

Static Control, huh, I have always used OEM on my Kyocera's. Do you use both color and mono toners on your Kyocera's and experience no issues with color and black toners? For example, TA-4551ci, M6535cidn, TA-5501i, TA-6501i, etc.? If that is the case I will have to look into it.