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  • BillyCarpenter
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    • Aug 2020
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    How well do you know paper?

    This goes back to a discussion I had with blackcat a few weeks ago. We were discussing setting up Custom Paper sizes. Well, if you look under custom paper settings, you'll see that paper is listed in grams (metric) and not pounds (English Measurement).


    Pound is only used in 3 countries, with the USA being one of them. The rest of the world used metric (grams) when discussing paper weight. I found all of this to be confusing so I decided to educate myself on this subject.


    When you look at a ream of paper, you'll notice sometimes manufactures list the weight in both pounds and grams. Sometimes both aren't listed and that's a problem.


    Below is a video that explains everything that you need to know about paper and a link that has a calculator that converts form grams to pound and vice-versa. There's also an app that you can download for your smartphone.


    Edit: You'll also notice that the formula changes when talking about "text" vs. "cover" types of paper.







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  • HaleBacker
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    • Mar 2021
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    #2
    Re: How well do you know paper?

    Just to add, that paper size depends on the purposes you need it for. So the main reason for its changed is.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Re: How well do you know paper?

      Originally posted by HaleBacker
      Just to add, that paper size depends on the purposes you need it for. So the main reason for its changed is.

      This is true. I can only speak for myself but I didn't truly understand paper the way I needed to. I don't even go by "pounds" any more. I only use grams when setting up a paper tray for some type of special paper. It's much easier and takes all the confusion out of it.

      I have to thank blackcat for bringing up this subject. It's made me more knowledgeable and it's helped out already in certain situations.
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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
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        #4
        Re: How well do you know paper?

        One place where the weight in pounds in useful is warehousing a shipping. When you know that 500 sheets, one ream, of double letter, 11X17, weighs 20 pounds plus wrapping easier to know what type of shelving you need for storage and how much your shipping weight is going to be.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Re: How well do you know paper?

          Originally posted by slimslob
          One place where the weight in pounds in useful is warehousing a shipping. When you know that 500 sheets, one ream, of double letter, 11X17, weighs 20 pounds plus wrapping easier to know what type of shelving you need for storage and how much your shipping weight is going to be.


          Good point.

          This site has taught me so much. When blackcat first broached the paper subject, I was like: "what the hell is he talking about now?" LOL


          At first I started to skip over it because it sounded complicated and my head was swimming from learning other stuff on this site. But I decided that it's probably something that I needed to know. It wasn't that complicated but it's very important to know. I have an app on my phone that tells me what I need to know and I use that information to set up custom paper size/weight. I don't use it that often but when you need it, you need it.
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: How well do you know paper?

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            Good point.

            This site has taught me so much. When blackcat first broached the paper subject, I was like: "what the hell is he talking about now?" LOL


            At first I started to skip over it because it sounded complicated and my head was swimming from learning other stuff on this site. But I decided that it's probably something that I needed to know. It wasn't that complicated but it's very important to know. I have an app on my phone that tells me what I need to know and I use that information to set up custom paper size/weight. I don't use it that often but when you need it, you need it.
            lol.

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            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
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            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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            • spanky
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              • Sep 2012
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              #7
              Re: How well do you know paper?

              See attached chart
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              • Tonerkiller
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                • Oct 2012
                • 658

                #8
                Re: How well do you know paper?

                Originally posted by spanky
                See attached chart
                This is the chart I have been using for 20 years. This is all you need to know.

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