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  • tonerhead
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    Faxes and hippa

    Now I do not want to hear that faxing is still viable. If you want to live in the stone age and believe it still is that is your perogative. I am getting pretty tired of medical community crying about hippa and faxes. I am done screwing with faxes, I would like to offer alternatives that are hippa compliant. Upon doing some research I have found that scan to email is not, attaching scans to emails is not, emails in general are not, etc.

    I have read about secure email drop sites for the medical community that are hippa compliant. Does anyone have any experience with hippa compliance outside of faxing?

    What I have found to be hippa compliant so far is

    1. Sender and receiver both have to be verified
    2. Transmission channel needs to be secured
    3. Data needs to be encrypted
    4. Origination, destination, and all points between need to securely store and/or destroy all data of the transmission (I guess secure email drop sites store the email and leave nothing on senders computer, receiver gets a link and views as if on local storage so they attach link to their records of patient)


    Short story long, what are people using out there and are they happy with it? I appreciate any suggestions.

    BTW, (sidenote), I fail to see how faxes could even remotely be seen as hippa compliant, especially since all phone communication is sent over ip anymore, but that's just me.
    I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


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  • BaconSteve
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    • tonerhead
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      Re: Faxes and hippa


      I agree with you 100%. However it is unlikely to change. Thank you for your reply. I deal with a large medical/nursing home community, I need to offer them something to make my life less miserable.
      I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


      Especially when it comes to sex

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      • copyman
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        Also doubt it will change. Reason doctors, etc use fax is it's the most secure way to send a document. You will never hear of a fax getting hacked!

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        • mansart
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          HIPAA-Complaint Fax Solutions For Healthcare (Hospitals, Doctors, Physicians, Clinics) - PHIPA Compliant Fax In Canada

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          • KenB
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            • copyman
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              Re: Faxes and hippa

              When I say faxing a document is most secure that is using a conventional fax machine, not electronic over internet. Secure meaning if you pick up a handset on that fax line you hear that weird noise fax machines make. That is not able to be hacked, not up to this point anyway. And of course you know who on on the receiving fax machine.

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              • seansbar
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                Last edited by seansbar; 11-15-2019, 05:23 PM. Reason: Add more info

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                • KenB
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                  “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                  • copyman
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                    I did post it depends who is on receiving end. My point was about hacking it while being sent.

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                    • KenB
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                      Re: Faxes and hippa

                      Intercepting a fax transmission, even over a standard analog phone line, is rare, but not unheard of.

                      The much bigger security issue is the carelessness displayed during the sending and receiving processes.

                      Having faxes sent to email or folder, without being printed, helps a bit on the receive side, at least.
                      “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                      • rspicer
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                        The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.

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                        • tsbservice
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                          Originally posted by rspicer
                          The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.
                          Thanks God, i didn't have to see faxes for a good time. This medical customers attitude is hilarious, though
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                          • Vincent128
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                            The "reason" Fax is more "secure" in it's sending of a TIFF via audio that you can record on audio tape, digitize and reconstruct the TIFF is that doing so breaks wire tap law - federal offense .

                            Intercepting an email ...not so much a deal..

                            they need like..a block chain Ifax or something ... I do so wish for the day that fax is gone, the industry has been saying that day is coming for the last 20+ GD years

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                            • KenB
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                              Re: Faxes and hippa

                              Originally posted by Vincent128
                              The "reason" Fax is more "secure" in it's sending of a TIFF via audio that you can record on audio tape, digitize and reconstruct the TIFF is that doing so breaks wire tap law - federal offense .

                              Intercepting an email ...not so much a deal..

                              they need like..a block chain Ifax or something ... I do so wish for the day that fax is gone, the industry has been saying that day is coming for the last 20+ GD years
                              “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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