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  • n25an
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    Li-Fi Networks Exposure

    Has anyone here dealt with any li-fi networks... ???
    if so do you remember the access point hardware used???
    Was it in a business or home???
    and if business... small, large etc???
    trying to figure out if this is actually being used as yet...
    Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
    I do this stuff on the weekends too
  • qbert69
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    #2
    Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

    Originally posted by n25an
    Has anyone here dealt with any li-fi networks... ???
    if so do you remember the access point hardware used???
    Was it in a business or home???
    and if business... small, large etc???
    trying to figure out if this is actually being used as yet...
    Is this what you're referring to???[emoji848]
    Li-Fi - Wikipedia

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    • n25an
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      #3
      Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

      yep
      trying to see if it has hit reality as yet... and not just a pipe dream...


      Originally posted by qbert69
      Is this what you're referring to???[emoji848]
      Li-Fi - Wikipedia

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      • slimslob
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        #4
        Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

        Originally posted by qbert69
        Is this what you're referring to???[emoji848]
        Li-Fi - Wikipedia

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        Sounds to me like many TV remotes that require line of sight to function.

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        • qbert69
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          #5
          Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

          Originally posted by slimslob
          Sounds to me like many TV remotes that require line of sight to function.
          LOS Remote uses Infrared...you can tell so by pointing it a a security camera which is capable of night vision & pushing the buttons...will be seen as flashes on the security monitor!!![emoji41]

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          • slimslob
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            #6
            Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

            Originally posted by qbert69
            LOS Remote uses Infrared...you can tell so by pointing it a a security camera which is capable of night vision & pushing the buttons...will be seen as flashes on the security monitor!!![emoji41]

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            Yes and that is Li-Fi. If you look at the Wikipedia page, Li-Fi (short for light fidelity) is wireless communication technology which utilizes light to transmit data and position between devices. It is also visible with night vision goggles. That makes it very unsecure unless it is encased in fiber optics. Of course fiber optics is not considered wireless.

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            • srvctec
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              #7
              Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

              Originally posted by qbert69
              LOS Remote uses Infrared...you can tell so by pointing it a a security camera which is capable of night vision & pushing the buttons...will be seen as flashes on the security monitor!!![emoji41]

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              Or just use your cell phone camera and watch the screen while you press a button on the remote. Old trick I learned decades ago when an instructor at a copier training class mentioned it and we were all shocked it worked. We didn't have to use those IR detector strips any more to detect IR coming from sensors in the machines.

              Oh, and in reference to Li-Fi, I'd never even heard of the term before so thanks for teaching me something, n25an since I love learning stuff.
              Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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              • anothertech
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                #8
                Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                Originally posted by srvctec
                Or just use your cell phone camera and watch the screen while you press a button on the remote. Old trick I learned decades ago when an instructor at a copier training class mentioned it and we were all shocked it worked. We didn't have to use those IR detector strips any more to detect IR coming from sensors in the machines.

                Oh, and in reference to Li-Fi, I'd never even heard of the term before so thanks for teaching me something, n25an since I love learning stuff.
                I just tried looking at the remote with my cell phone camera, I don't see any activity when I press the buttons.

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                • allan
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                  #9
                  Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                  Hackers found that you can trick voice activated devices like cell phones that use Siri or Alexa to activate smart devices by playing back an IR signal pointed to the microphone!
                  So if the device is visible from a window in your house a smart lock can be opened silently.

                  Something to do with the design on the compact microphones that allows it?
                  Whatever

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                  • srvctec
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                    #10
                    Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                    Originally posted by anothertech
                    I just tried looking at the remote with my cell phone camera, I don't see any activity when I press the buttons.
                    Weird that you can't get it to work. I just checked all my IR remotes and the results are the same. Never had it not work unless your remote isn't IR. I just took this video.

                    FYI, it's easier to see in a dimly lit area and it depends on how much power your remote's IR LED(s) put out. Some will show up better than others.

                    Also, it doesn't have to be a cell phone camera, any digital camera will work.

                    IR remote test on Vimeo
                    Last edited by srvctec; 04-20-2020, 09:53 PM.
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                    • NeoMatrix
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                      #11
                      Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                      Along a similar vein...

                      htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3528551/getting-closer-to-no-battery-devices.html

                      Getting closer to no-battery devices | Network World

                      htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3532094/ai-everywhere-iot-chips-coming-from-arm.html


                      'AI everywhere' IoT chips coming from Arm | Network World
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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        #12
                        Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                        Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                        Along a similar vein...

                        htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3528551/getting-closer-to-no-battery-devices.html

                        Getting closer to no-battery devices | Network World

                        htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3532094/ai-everywhere-iot-chips-coming-from-arm.html


                        'AI everywhere' IoT chips coming from Arm | Network World

                        If people haven't realised, the above article describing new technology sounds very much like the age old amateur crystal radio techniques. Should we call it what it is: crystal coil capacitor diode ID signature technology, RF-ID.

                        The two x radio principle seems like a waste of time. When one separate radio receives the other separate radio transmits. One radio would only require switching from receive low power, to transmit high power. Why the need for two separate radios? The receive radio sounds very much like its only acting as a coil capacitor charge up On switch.

                        htttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

                        Crystal radio - Wikipedia
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                        • allan
                          RTFM!!

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                          #13
                          Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                          Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                          Along a similar vein...

                          htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3528551/getting-closer-to-no-battery-devices.html

                          Getting closer to no-battery devices | Network World

                          htttps://www.networkworld.com/article/3532094/ai-everywhere-iot-chips-coming-from-arm.html


                          'AI everywhere' IoT chips coming from Arm | Network World
                          Scary stuff!
                          Whatever

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                          • NeoMatrix
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                            #14
                            Re: Li-Fi Networks Exposure

                            Originally posted by allan
                            Scary stuff!
                            And that is only the technology people can handle.

                            If allowed to go full into a"Technocratic" goverment, your talking technology with a very very darkside.

                            This is what can happen when you pulse microwaves into the brain cavity an cause calcium fluctuations as the hydrogen molecules go into isotropic fluctuations and gives off an amplified readable pulse signature.

                            Heres a real scary hint :
                            We're talking full Manchurian mind control or dail up nutter gunmen.
                            We're talking mind control in prostitution rings where young women sleep walk around their neighbourhood at night.
                            We're talking mind control paedophile rings we're young children are pide-pipered from their beds late at night into waiting paedophile vans.
                            We're talking politians, bank managers,lawyers doctors professional people who develop serve headahes and leave their positions of employment on artifical stress leave.
                            The calcium fluctuations lines in every persons finger nails is not from vitamin deficiencies, I can tell you that.

                            Glass windows,doors, incandescence lightbulbs bursting. Why do you think all vacuum television an incandescence light bulbs were phased out. They can randomly explode under heavy ERP.

                            Bird life crashing into windows. Bees dying... many animals going wierd. Dogs barking continuosly as their nervious system is violated destroyed...? And a lot of other strange, out of normal, behaviour from a list of other animals.

                            I've spoken to high-up financial people who have spoken openly about their artificial headaches and their early retirement induced stress leave from their influential jobs. Sounds like a democratic system doesn't it?? Not!.

                            The above is the ultimate Technocratic dictatorship.

                            The above may help people understand why people around the world are burning down 5G cell towers. Do you want to talk about President Trump draining the swamp of the Deep State? Now you know the real Deep State of the problem.

                            Do I like telling people the above tin-foil hat crap. Not with any joy, I can tell you that much. I know how the hydrogen atom is created. I know how to RF pulse water to amplify isotropic signals.... Im not a happy person by knowing technology, and not being able to use it to help others.

                            My heart of hearts carries the weight of a heavy layden merchant ship, that travels alone on the violent high seas. I grow weary as the day gets long...
                            Last edited by NeoMatrix; 05-21-2020, 11:17 PM.
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