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  • gneebore
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    #16
    Re: usb wi-fi output router

    Originally posted by qbert69
    Not sure what Cable Internet Service you have...I have Comcast and have learned to simplify things. For one, I learned to never rent their equipment...because it's usually crap and low spec...additionally, they will charge you monthly!!!...I'd rather own my own equipment! I've found that an "all in one" modem/wired/wireless router is NOT the best. I have a specific modem with power, cable, & one Ethernet port that goes to my wired/wireless router...the brand is Arris...used to be Motorola before being bought out...usually reasonably price and best in class compared to what the cable company provides which is usually the minimum unless you are paying top dollar for a business class router. Additionally, if my modem fails, all I have to do is go to WallyWorld, grab a cable modem, go home hook it up and call Comcast and give them the MAC ID of the router...usually within 15 to 20 minutes I am off to the races!!! Comcast used to make it that when you got a new modem, you'd have to hook the Ethernet directly up to the pc to login and authenticate and then you could attach the router to your modem. Sometimes after doing that authentication with your pc, and then hooking up the router, you'd have to copy the MAC ID of your PC to the router so the modem would think that you still had the pc directly connected to the modem. Separating devices with their functionality is easier to troubleshoot and if you have to replace one of those devices due to lightning damage, it's usually cheaper. I once had a near lightning strike (Electromagnetic Pulse-EMP) take out the radio transceiver of the wireless router, but since the wireless router was separate from the modem, the modem was ok and I didn't have to replace that. So not knowing exactly how your setup is configured makes it more difficult to troubleshoot. If you're using Windows 10, it should allow you to do a network reset which is I believe a TCP/IP stack reset...basically return to factory settings. Also if using Windows 10, check your network location setting to see if it is set to private or public...sometimes janky things happen with that setting!!!...especially if you are trying to share files between computers!!! Also, make sure you have the most recent drivers for whatever networking hardware is in your pc and update if necessary!!! Oh and BTW, the USB port on the side of the router is NOT for plugging the computer in for internet access!!! ...it is for plugging in a usb thumb drive or a mini hard disk drive for file and media sharing and possibly a printer for printer sharing too!!!...you'd have to go to the webpage of the router to enable/disable functionality on that USB port. I just had a thought, if you are trying to connect wirelessly to the router from your laptop, the authentication on your laptop may want to authenticate/negotiate at a higher and tighter security protocol than what the router is capable of doing or if it is defaulted to a lower security protocol which your wireless laptop is rejecting. Check the authentication security settings in the router and see if the are able to be matched with what the laptop is able to do. Also, if the router has the ability to do 5GHz and/or 2.4GHz Wi-Fi, Skip the 5GHz Wi-Fi and ONLY use the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi...5GHz has a wider bandwidth but a MUCH shorter range than the 2.4 GHz frequency spectrum. Sorry for my rambling but there's alot of things to consider!!!...and alot of it is not clear cut information!...mostly trial and error AND experience with a good dose of troubleshooting!!! @gneebore from what it sounds like you need to do, after I read your initial post again, is to clone the MAC ID of your desktop into your router settings so that the cable modem sees "AS IF" you were still connected directly to the cable modem with your PC Directly. This will most likely fix your situation!
    I'll give that a shot and hope I do it right. Thanks for the help. In another post I said i was going to try and buy my own router/switch to see if that works. And there is actually a way to use a usb cable between pcs as a small network setup A bit confusing and difficult to find the cables . Plus one websit suggested using bluetooth as a method of small scale networking at home too
    Not that I would try that without a whole lot of reading first though

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    • tsbservice
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      #17
      Re: usb wi-fi output router

      Could you take laptop with you to place where there's good 3G/4G tower signal. Then use your phone as hotspot and share data with laptop to update it?
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      • slimslob
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        #18
        Re: usb wi-fi output router

        Originally posted by tsbservice
        I'm thinking that slim may have nailed something here.
        It is what I had to do for the first cable modem I had. Back then you had to order the service and purchase the modem from a local electronics store. It came with instructions on how to set it up.

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        • bsm2
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          #19
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          • gneebore
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            #20
            Re: usb wi-fi output router

            Originally posted by tsbservice
            Could you take laptop with you to place where there's good 3G/4G tower signal. Then use your phone as hotspot and share data with laptop to update it?
            Actually no I do not have a smart phone and do not actually plan on getting one. I have a nice plain simple flip phone I use only for emergencies since there are no longer any payphones anywhere to be found. A couple years ago I needed to find a pay phone to call a family member collect when out in the country around sixty miles from home. So I ended up setting up an old flip phone I used at work that they gave me because no one else there would use it. Even weirder I actually have an ancient Blackberry too. But there are no cell companies that allow them to be used anymore since no one has the sim cards for them. I have a real cheap cell service that has long distance included in the service. No data and no texting just voice and all it costs is 100 dollars a year. I still have a carry-over amount after I had to renew it.

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            • gneebore
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              #21
              Re: usb wi-fi output router

              Originally posted by slimslob
              It is what I had to do for the first cable modem I had. Back then you had to order the service and purchase the modem from a local electronics store. It came with instructions on how to set it up.

              I did think of that too. But my home phone is also part of the cable service and uses the modem also. Nice inexpensive phone service with unlimited long distance. that comes in handy since most of my family live out in the country and out of local calling area. I might see if I can add a cable splitter and then hook up a second modem for the laptop and get it to work that way.
              Last edited by gneebore; 08-30-2020, 09:45 PM.

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              • qbert69
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                #22
                Re: usb wi-fi output router

                Originally posted by gneebore
                I did think of that too. But my home phone is also part of the cable service and uses the modem also. Nice inexpensive phone service with unlimited long distance. that comes in handy since most of my family live out in the country and out of local calling area. I might see if I can add a cable splitter and then hook up a second modem for the laptop and get it to work that way.
                Sounds like your cable modem has "bonded" to the MAC ID of the desktop, in which case you will need to get the MAC ID of your desktop and put it in the router so when you hook up the router to the modem it will look "AS IF" the desktop was hooked up to the modem and it will appear as such to the modem.

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                • slimslob
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                  Re: usb wi-fi output router

                  Originally posted by gneebore
                  I did think of that too. But my home phone is also part of the cable service and uses the modem also. Nice inexpensive phone service with unlimited long distance. that comes in handy since most of my family live out in the country and out of local calling area. I might see if I can add a cable splitter and then hook up a second modem for the laptop and get it to work that way.
                  That is what I got a few years ago when it became available. Depending om how old your modem it may need to be replaced. A couple of moths ago the internet connection started playing yo yo. It came up. It went down. Repeat. I called them on my mobile phone as the as the VOIP home phone didn't work if the modem was down. She ran some checks over the internet and then sent a service tech out. He got there in less than an hour, came in, glanced at the modem and went out to his truck and got a new modem. He said that since the first of the year they had been replacing the type modem I had whether working or not since they were experienced a high failure rate both with the modem itself and the battery in the modem.

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                  • gneebore
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                    #24
                    Re: usb wi-fi output router

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    That is what I got a few years ago when it became available. Depending om how old your modem it may need to be replaced. A couple of moths ago the internet connection started playing yo yo. It came up. It went down. Repeat. I called them on my mobile phone as the as the VOIP home phone didn't work if the modem was down. She ran some checks over the internet and then sent a service tech out. He got there in less than an hour, came in, glanced at the modem and went out to his truck and got a new modem. He said that since the first of the year they had been replacing the type modem I had whether working or not since they were experienced a high failure rate both with the modem itself and the battery in the modem.
                    Modem is brand new so no problem there, I did call tech support again and found out that part of the problem is the new security setup to protect the user information. I guess there have been a few scammers calling and asking for passwords to the modem since there is a :virus on your computer infecting our network" Yes I did get those for a while way back when. Even worse they did have my correct name and an old dial up email address that was actually correct. I found out that I may be able to get a private aftermarket router and set up a small network here with that. I have to turn the modem off for two minutes and then turn it on and then plug the network cable into the router internet port for the modem to recognize and set it as the default mac address. With the two pc's then plugged in and getting their addresses from the router. Or I just may say the heck with it and turn the modem off/on and plug the pc I want to use on the internet for a short while then do the same to reconnect the other one.

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                    • slimslob
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                      #25
                      Re: usb wi-fi output router

                      Originally posted by gneebore
                      Modem is brand new so no problem there, I did call tech support again and found out that part of the problem is the new security setup to protect the user information. I guess there have been a few scammers calling and asking for passwords to the modem since there is a :virus on your computer infecting our network" Yes I did get those for a while way back when. Even worse they did have my correct name and an old dial up email address that was actually correct. I found out that I may be able to get a private aftermarket router and set up a small network here with that. I have to turn the modem off for two minutes and then turn it on and then plug the network cable into the router internet port for the modem to recognize and set it as the default mac address. With the two pc's then plugged in and getting their addresses from the router. Or I just may say the heck with it and turn the modem off/on and plug the pc I want to use on the internet for a short while then do the same to reconnect the other one.
                      I would go with the router. Everyone makes them so competition is high and prices are low. Most also include a WiFi access point.

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                      • bsm2
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                        #26
                        Re: usb wi-fi output router

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        I would go with the router. Everyone makes them so competition is high and prices are low. Most also include a WiFi access point.

                        Page one of this thread try and keep up

                        I have used three other routers .

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                        • bsm2
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