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  • gneebore
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    usb wi-fi output router

    This a kind of different subject but I am unable to find anything that matches. Maybe I am using the wrong terms on the search engines. But here goes. I am looking for a wi-fi router that has as it;s input a usb port instead of the usual cat-5 connector. I have cable internet and the service had as part of it a wi-fi router that three different towers did not work. For some reason when I disconnect the cat five cable from my desktop any other network device needs a used name and password that is not what my account id uses. So I was looking for the possible wi-fi router to connect to my desktop and have that as my in home wi-fi for the laptop which does not connect to the network modem. Yes I have spent a few hours on the phone with the internet tech support over this and decided to try a different method like the usb -wi-fi router, May be a lost cause. But the weird thing is I took my laptop to my sisters house about an hours drive away and plugged right in to their network. And went to visit the neighbor where of course it plugged in and worked fine. Now I can use the neighbors wi-fi but it is incredibly slow like less than one meg download. All I want to do is find a way to update the software and os on the laptop. I use it only when visiting and do not want to take a compromised pc and hook it into another network and have the laptop be the viral maleware source for their networks.
  • qbert69
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    Re: usb wi-fi output router

    Any wired/wireless router that you use will create its own network (LAN) even if not plugged up to the internet (WAN) and give out IP Addresses... almost sounds like you are trying to make an adhoc network from device to device minus the router. If connecting device to device, IP Addresses have to be manually assigned. Let me know if I'm on the right track!!![emoji57]

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    • bsm2
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      #3
      Re: usb wi-fi output router

      Buy another router



      Why would you think it's infected

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      • gneebore
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        #4
        Re: usb wi-fi output router

        Originally posted by qbert69
        Any wired/wireless router that you use will create its own network (LAN) even if not plugged up to the internet (WAN) and give out IP Addresses... almost sounds like you are trying to make an adhoc network from device to device minus the router. If connecting device to device, IP Addresses have to be manually assigned. Let me know if I'm on the right track!!![emoji57]

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        I have used three other routers . All provided by the cable internet company. As soon as the output from the modem is plugged in to them they went dead. I spent several hours on the phone with their tech support and did everything they said to do and as soon as the cat-5 cable was taken out of the desktop and plugged into any other router or even my laptop network port the internet went bye-bye. The modem lights were fine and said "online" but nothing at the laptop. Plugged the cable back into the desktop and everything worked fine with the desktop. I did a search to see if there was a usb wi-fi router to avoid going back and getting another one of the cable company's failures again. Their office is twenty-five miles away and they will not deliver. And if they send a tech out it will be a service charge. One of the problems with getting the "low-cost internet " package. I may see if I can find, instead of a router, a network switch box and see if I can get that to work. Had a lot of customers that used switches instead of routers to run multiple desktops with a server and connected to one of our networked copier/printers. Would be weird if I could actually put a spare network card into the desktop and run a sub network that way. Input on the motherboard network connection and output from the card.

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        • gneebore
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          #5
          Re: usb wi-fi output router

          Originally posted by bsm2
          Buy another router



          Why would you think it's infected
          I did not say it was infected but I cannot update the anti-virus software right now so I do not want to put a machine on soemone elses network that is vulnerable to any bots searching for weakly protected pc's

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          • copier tech
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            #6
            Re: usb wi-fi output router

            Originally posted by gneebore
            This a kind of different subject but I am unable to find anything that matches. Maybe I am using the wrong terms on the search engines. But here goes. I am looking for a wi-fi router that has as it;s input a usb port instead of the usual cat-5 connector. I have cable internet and the service had as part of it a wi-fi router that three different towers did not work. For some reason when I disconnect the cat five cable from my desktop any other network device needs a used name and password that is not what my account id uses. So I was looking for the possible wi-fi router to connect to my desktop and have that as my in home wi-fi for the laptop which does not connect to the network modem. Yes I have spent a few hours on the phone with the internet tech support over this and decided to try a different method like the usb -wi-fi router, May be a lost cause. But the weird thing is I took my laptop to my sisters house about an hours drive away and plugged right in to their network. And went to visit the neighbor where of course it plugged in and worked fine. Now I can use the neighbors wi-fi but it is incredibly slow like less than one meg download. All I want to do is find a way to update the software and os on the laptop. I use it only when visiting and do not want to take a compromised pc and hook it into another network and have the laptop be the viral maleware source for their networks.
            I'm struggling to understand your issue here.

            Basically you can't connect to your home router via WIFI or LAN is this correct?

            Routers with USB ports don't exist because what use would that serve.

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            • bsm2
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              Re: usb wi-fi output router

              3 Router dead?

              You do know you have to setup the router once it's plugged in?

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              • Tricky
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                Re: usb wi-fi output router

                usb is not networking, although some routers have a single usb port it is designed for say a hard drive to be shared.

                edit - powered hard drive
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                • KenB
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                  • slimslob
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                    IF your computer has a private address and the DHCP in the cable modem is providing is providing a wide enough address range, you can set your computer up as a WiFi hot point. Any standard USB WiFi adapter can be used.

                    If you have a public address you will not be able to share your connection through a USB adapter unless your computer can provide DHCP and NAT to the USB adapter. That usually means Windows Server of some type. There is another option. Some cable companies when they only have one cat-5 connector on the cable modem key that connection to the MAC of the computer that is initially connected to it and will not connect to any other device. If that is the case, get any standard router with WiFi AP. Most new routers come with a CD for configuring the router. Use it. Use the CAT5 cable currently connecting your computer to the cable modem to connect the router to the cable modem. Use a new CAT5 cable to connect your computer to the router and configure it to clone your MAC. If the cable company also gave you a user name and password there is a place to program that in the router as well.

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                    • tsbservice
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                      Re: usb wi-fi output router

                      Usb ports on some routers may have surprisingly many functions.
                      7 Uses For The USB Port on Your Router - Dignited
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                      • gneebore
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                        Re: usb wi-fi output router

                        Originally posted by copier tech
                        I'm struggling to understand your issue here.

                        Basically you can't connect to your home router via WIFI or LAN is this correct?

                        Routers with USB ports don't exist because what use would that serve.

                        Not really I used the internet service provided wi-fi routers and they did not work at all even to the point that all three I tried immediately when I plugged the output cable of the modem into them they shut down. And as part of the llow cost internet charge I pay for all service tech calls made into my home. I was looking for a router not with a usb output port but one that I could plug into my pc and then use the wi-fi output to share the internet with my laptop via the desktop. I am going to see about getting a network router switch versus another modem or router to see if I can use that to share the internet between my two computers. Like I said in another post I ran into problems when a network specialist always used routers when setting up extra office pcs on private networks. When plugged in to the ether net jacks the ip address ranges matched those on other switch boxes and the networked copier. If he used a router and plugged the input cable into the internet/input jack then the output from the other cable jacks would all be a different ip range than the rest of the networked pcs and the already set up copier/printer. Several times all I did when faced with this kind of problem was have the network specialist (since I was not allowed by my boss to work on their networks) turn off the router. Plug the input cable into one f the other switch box jacks and leave the input jack empty. Then turn on router and surprise surprise the pcs all had the same range of ip addresses as the rest of the office and the copier printer.

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                        • qbert69
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                          Re: usb wi-fi output router

                          Not sure what Cable Internet Service you have...I have Comcast and have learned to simplify things. For one, I learned to never rent their equipment...because it's usually crap and low spec...additionally, they will charge you monthly!!!...I'd rather own my own equipment! I've found that an "all in one" modem/wired/wireless router is NOT the best. I have a specific modem with power, cable, & one Ethernet port that goes to my wired/wireless router...the brand is Arris...used to be Motorola before being bought out...usually reasonably price and best in class compared to what the cable company provides which is usually the minimum unless you are paying top dollar for a business class router. Additionally, if my modem fails, all I have to do is go to WallyWorld, grab a cable modem, go home hook it up and call Comcast and give them the MAC ID of the router...usually within 15 to 20 minutes I am off to the races!!! Comcast used to make it that when you got a new modem, you'd have to hook the Ethernet directly up to the pc to login and authenticate and then you could attach the router to your modem. Sometimes after doing that authentication with your pc, and then hooking up the router, you'd have to copy the MAC ID of your PC to the router so the modem would think that you still had the pc directly connected to the modem. Separating devices with their functionality is easier to troubleshoot and if you have to replace one of those devices due to lightning damage, it's usually cheaper. I once had a near lightning strike (Electromagnetic Pulse-EMP) take out the radio transceiver of the wireless router, but since the wireless router was separate from the modem, the modem was ok and I didn't have to replace that. So not knowing exactly how your setup is configured makes it more difficult to troubleshoot. If you're using Windows 10, it should allow you to do a network reset which is I believe a TCP/IP stack reset...basically return to factory settings. Also if using Windows 10, check your network location setting to see if it is set to private or public...sometimes janky things happen with that setting!!!...especially if you are trying to share files between computers!!! Also, make sure you have the most recent drivers for whatever networking hardware is in your pc and update if necessary!!! Oh and BTW, the USB port on the side of the router is NOT for plugging the computer in for internet access!!! ...it is for plugging in a usb thumb drive or a mini hard disk drive for file and media sharing and possibly a printer for printer sharing too!!!...you'd have to go to the webpage of the router to enable/disable functionality on that USB port. I just had a thought, if you are trying to connect wirelessly to the router from your laptop, the authentication on your laptop may want to authenticate/negotiate at a higher and tighter security protocol than what the router is capable of doing or if it is defaulted to a lower security protocol which your wireless laptop is rejecting. Check the authentication security settings in the router and see if the are able to be matched with what the laptop is able to do. Also, if the router has the ability to do 5GHz and/or 2.4GHz Wi-Fi, Skip the 5GHz Wi-Fi and ONLY use the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi...5GHz has a wider bandwidth but a MUCH shorter range than the 2.4 GHz frequency spectrum. Sorry for my rambling but there's alot of things to consider!!!...and alot of it is not clear cut information!...mostly trial and error AND experience with a good dose of troubleshooting!!! @gneebore from what it sounds like you need to do, after I read your initial post again, is to clone the MAC ID of your desktop into your router settings so that the cable modem sees "AS IF" you were still connected directly to the cable modem with your PC Directly. This will most likely fix your situation!
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                          • gneebore
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                            Re: usb wi-fi output router

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            IF your computer has a private address and the DHCP in the cable modem is providing is providing a wide enough address range, you can set your computer up as a WiFi hot point. Any standard USB WiFi adapter can be used.

                            If you have a public address you will not be able to share your connection through a USB adapter unless your computer can provide DHCP and NAT to the USB adapter. That usually means Windows Server of some type. There is another option. Some cable companies when they only have one cat-5 connector on the cable modem key that connection to the MAC of the computer that is initially connected to it and will not connect to any other device. If that is the case, get any standard router with WiFi AP. Most new routers come with a CD for configuring the router. Use it. Use the CAT5 cable currently connecting your computer to the cable modem to connect the router to the cable modem. Use a new CAT5 cable to connect your computer to the router and configure it to clone your MAC. If the cable company also gave you a user name and password there is a place to program that in the router as well.
                            I am pretty sure the ip address is private since I am not able to access the gateway ip address when I do check the ipconfig numbers, which btw start with 24.88. The modem can only be accessed by the tech support people from the cable company from their office. Yes I used to access my dsl modem gateway ip address to change the default username and password to avoid hackers getting into the system via the modem. In fact the dsl modem actually pops up a message to change the default password and user name for security when it is plugged into my computer network port. And on a regular basis would remind me to change the user name/password of the modem as a security measure. That was a netgear modem btw

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                            • tsbservice
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                              Re: usb wi-fi output router

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              IF your computer has a private address and the DHCP in the cable modem is providing is providing a wide enough address range, you can set your computer up as a WiFi hot point. Any standard USB WiFi adapter can be used.

                              If you have a public address you will not be able to share your connection through a USB adapter unless your computer can provide DHCP and NAT to the USB adapter. That usually means Windows Server of some type. There is another option. Some cable companies when they only have one cat-5 connector on the cable modem key that connection to the MAC of the computer that is initially connected to it and will not connect to any other device. If that is the case, get any standard router with WiFi AP. Most new routers come with a CD for configuring the router. Use it. Use the CAT5 cable currently connecting your computer to the cable modem to connect the router to the cable modem. Use a new CAT5 cable to connect your computer to the router and configure it to clone your MAC. If the cable company also gave you a user name and password there is a place to program that in the router as well.

                              I'm thinking that slim may have nailed something here.
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