Windows 11 is Here

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[Phil B.]

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The next major Windows update, known widely as Sun Valley, is expected to debut in October 2021. Microsoft is planning to unveil the next generation of Windows, and the teaser appears to suggest that a "Windows 11" could be announced.

Why Windows 11 doesn't (yet) exist

While there are several reasons why Microsoft hasn't yet made a, and it all comes back to "Windows as a Service." This is Microsoft's way of making sure Windows 10 remains the latest version of Windows. Instead of releasing a fresh version of the OS every three or six years with new features and changes, the company will instead constantly update Windows 10 with those incremental updates instead.
This keeps everything clean and simple but does result in somewhat more boring OS updates, rather than Microsoft launching one big update every few years. The last handful of Windows 10 feature updates have been relatively minor with little changes, tweaking smaller aspects of the experience, rather than changing the look and feel of the OS.
With that in mind, Microsoft could still ship a Windows 11 while maintaining its "Windows as a Service" promise. Windows 11 could just be the name of the next Windows 10 feature update, delivered in the exact same way as previous Windows 10 feature updates have been. It would be free, seamless, and easy to install.

screw bill gates and his crap OS's.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11

[rthonpm]

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Still trying to figure out how Gates gets blamed for what Microsoft does when he hasn't had any role in the company in years. Might as well blame Steve Wozniack for what Apple does.

Windows 11 likely won't be a free upgrade from Windows 10 as there appear to be some limiting factors in terms of install, namely TPM 2.0 and secure boot. With so many Windows 7 era machines upgraded to 10 it makes sense to use a newer OS to start cleaning up legacy features that won't be coming back. Even the Have Disk feature for driver installs now defaults to D: instead of A: in Win 11. The 2025 EOL for Windows 10 should see most upgraded hardware through to the end of its usable life and most Windows 10 equipment may either need upgrades to components or may have some compatibility shims put in place.

Also, as much as there have been reports based on the Windows 11 ISO that's been leaked, there's no real way to tell how old the build is or how close it is to the RTM version. I remember the preview builds of 7, 8, and 10 that all ended up quite different than the final release editions as menus were cleaned up and test features were added and removed from one version to the next.

I'm more interested at this point of test driving Server 2022, which has an official preview ISO available from Microsoft.



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[kuby]

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Is this suppose to fix all the bugs in Windows 10?

[copier tech]

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As I understood there will now only be Windows 10 with MS bringing out feature updates/improvements.

[rthonpm]

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As I understood there will now only be Windows 10 with MS bringing out feature updates/improvements.

They did say that, but at the same time the Support Lifecycle site showed an end of support date of 2025 for Windows 10, putting it in cadence with all other OS versions.

My thinking is as they started to try and peel back the layers of compatibility built into the NT kernel it became easier to just build out a clean version as opposed to trying to pull out all of the existing strands. ARM processors are becoming more mainstream, and this move could also allow Windows better support for the platform since there's no need to re-write legacy instructions into something that ARM doesn't support. It could also give the OS the opportunity to be even more platform agnostic instead of completely different codebases for different processor types.

Fun fact: What Microsoft released as XP Service Pack 2 was originally intended to be an entirely new OS replacing XP. Instead, they opted to just release it as a huge service pack.

[ZOOTECH]

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Is this suppose to fix all the bugs in Windows 10?

YES, but I am not looking forward to a new group of bugs in WIN11.

[Rewind!]

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Heres hoping SMB1 is non existant in windows 11..... I hate reboot wednesdays.

JC

[bostavan]

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Version 11 of Windows is similar to version 10. The LTSC version of Windows is a special version of Windows with long-term support. With LTSC versions of Windows (formerly called LTSB - Branch), Microsoft prioritizes system stability. The lifecycle of 10 LTSC is 10 years (5 years basic and 5 years extended support if you have a contract). This means that Microsoft will support Windows 10 until 2028 (extended support for Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC for 5 years is possible only if the company participates in the Software Assurance program). But you need an activation key and you get all the applications plus additional features to assist this version.

[slimslob]

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Windows is now being rolled out. If you have a Windows 10 computer with compatible hardware it should be offered to you as a features update for download and install through Windows Update. I installed on my laptop yesterday. Things I noticed was on the initial Windows screen before the login the date and time are now top center. When the login prompt came up it was black instead of white.

On to the desktop. I use Classic Shell which replaces Microsoft's start menu, which hate, with one that has the look of that used on older versions of Windows. It setup up fine on Windows 11. Apparently Microsoft has decided that they like things center justified. All the pinned and loaded applications are now centered on the taskbar, including a Microsoft start button that allows you to launch all your Microsoft apps.

[rthonpm]

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The Start menu can be moved back to the left in settings. For high resolution displays past 22 inches it actually makes sense in the middle of the display as it's easier to access. I have a copy of it on a VM and when using my office 4k monitors it's much easier to access from the middle of the screen as opposed to having to go all the way over to the lower corner of the display.

Most of my office equipment doesn't support the processor requirements, but even before 11 was announced I had planned hardware refreshes in 2022. Windows 10 still has a good four years of support left. In the last two or three years most of our equipment budget has gone to server and storage upgrades.

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[BillyCarpenter]

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I bought a Dell Lattitude 7490 from Ebay. It has Windows 11 Pro. It arrived about an hour ago. I briefly played around with it. It's not that much different. The first thing that I noticed is that This PC isn't on the start menu. I did find it under File Explorer.

[rthonpm]

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I bought a Dell Lattitude 7490 from Ebay. It has Windows 11 Pro. It arrived about an hour ago. I briefly played around with it. It's not that much different. The first thing that I noticed is that This PC isn't on the start menu. I did find it under File Explorer.

I'm not a huge fan of keeping things on the Desktop, but you can also get a shortcut there by right clicking on an empty part of the Desktop and selecting Personalize then selecting Themes from the menu and then look for the shortcut for Desktop icon settings.

For anyone complaining about the Start Menu being in the middle of the display: try using Windows on a 24" or larger display at 2k or 4k resolution: it's a lot faster getting to it in the middle of the screen, or even faster by just using the Windows key.

Make sure with that 7490 you either replace the drive in it, or make sure that you apply any firmware updates for it. I've seen plenty of this model with flaky drives.

[copier tech]

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You can upgrade to Windows 11 here should your PC meet the right HW specifications.

Download Windows 11

[slimslob]

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I'm not a huge fan of keeping things on the Desktop, but you can also get a shortcut there by right clicking on an empty part of the Desktop and selecting Personalize then selecting Themes from the menu and then look for the shortcut for Desktop icon settings.

I have had the laptop I am currently using for a couple of months. It came with Windows 10, 20H1 if I remember. It also did not have My PC or This PC on the desktop. Did a Yahoo search to find out about using Personalize instead of creatring a shortcut.

For anyone complaining about the Start Menu being in the middle of the display: try using Windows on a 24" or larger display at 2k or 4k resolution: it's a lot faster getting to it in the middle of the screen, or even faster by just using the Windows key.

With a 17" laptop you get used to the centered taskbar very quickly. I tried Taskbar settings but since I use Classic Shell whose Start button stays at the lower left corner the left most Icon was fully hidden behind the Classic Shell Start button and the one next to it was partially hidden.