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  • SalesServiceGuy
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • Dec 2009
    • 8124

    #1

    Low cost DCA tool

    Can anyone recommend a low cost Data Collection agent for small dealers with small fleets of copier/ printers for mostly low volume devices.

    I know Lexmark has their Fleet Mgt Cloud portal to collect meter reads but I do not have access to it.
  • Duplicator
    IT Manager

    100+ Posts
    • May 2022
    • 245

    #2
    Re: Low cost DCA tool

    We use something called Labrador. It uses SNMP to collect data from the copiers/MFPs/printers/ect. It works....okay....

    Labrador Solutions, LLC.

    It's got a few upsides.
    • Seems to collect meter counts reliably. Reports them in a web interface.
    • There is a customer and "admin" side. If needed you can give the customer access to see what their collected counts are.
    • Doesn't seem to cost much compared to other options.
    • Server outages seem to be rare.


    It's drawbacks are numerous however.
    • It pretty much hasn't been developed since the Windows 7 days.
    • Doesn't update meter counts correctly in the ERP. (so we can't use it's automatic function). It calculates "Impressions" as just the B&W prints, not B&W+Color prints.
    • Would be nice to have a way to see consumable levels, firmware version, error codes, or other metrics.
    • There is ONLY a Windows client. No options for macOS or other OSes.
    • Windows client interface is really clunky to use.
    • Communication can be poor from the company behind it.


    I suppose you get what you pay for.
    • Seems to be run by one guy with one rented server. This might not be true but it sure feels like it.
    Worked in IT for 12 years from Helpdesk up to System Administrator. Now working as the IT Manager at a copier company for the last 4 years.

    If I helped you out, please give me a thumbs up! It helps my reputation.

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    • plus-COPY
      Technician
      • Aug 2023
      • 26

      #3
      Re: Low cost DCA tool

      Originally posted by Duplicator
      We use something called Labrador. It uses SNMP to collect data from the copiers/MFPs/printers/ect. It works....okay....

      Labrador Solutions, LLC.

      It's got a few upsides.
      • Seems to collect meter counts reliably. Reports them in a web interface.
      • There is a customer and "admin" side. If needed you can give the customer access to see what their collected counts are.
      • Doesn't seem to cost much compared to other options.
      • Server outages seem to be rare.


      It's drawbacks are numerous however.
      • It pretty much hasn't been developed since the Windows 7 days.
      • Doesn't update meter counts correctly in the ERP. (so we can't use it's automatic function). It calculates "Impressions" as just the B&W prints, not B&W+Color prints.
      • Would be nice to have a way to see consumable levels, firmware version, error codes, or other metrics.
      • There is ONLY a Windows client. No options for macOS or other OSes.
      • Windows client interface is really clunky to use.
      • Communication can be poor from the company behind it.


      I suppose you get what you pay for.
      • Seems to be run by one guy with one rented server. This might not be true but it sure feels like it.

      MFP-SERVICE
      For Canon and Konica Minolta, we use a program that does not require DCA to be installed.
      The configuration is uploaded to the devices in service modes, and the device will send information from any location.
      The program consists of the Administrator, system users and the client with granted permissions.
      I recommend it, very convenient to implement, developed since 2007.

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      • Hart
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Feb 2024
        • 353

        #4
        Re: Low cost DCA tool

        What ??? We've been nagging Canon for years to have an integrated solution like Sharp (or Epson now with ERS).

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        • mbcruzin
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Aug 2013
          • 142

          #5
          Re: Low cost DCA tool

          I have used several at this point

          FSM Fleet Services Management. This was a nightmare to keep up and running on the client side

          PA Print Audit. Another nightmare....

          KFS Kyocera Fleet Services. amazing for Kyocera and copystar fleet management.

          Now EKM..... Haven't figured out the acronym yet. From what I've seen it works amazing with HP devices. had a few issues with correctly reading Kyocera and Toshiba 3 tier meters. Plus the algorithm takes a few months to figure out the customer usage for toner requests.

          The best one for me was Kyocera fleet service/KFS. It allowed us to have almost full control over the Kyocera/copystar fleet. Push firmware, collect meters, toner usage, clear errors, perform system settings without being in front of the machine, and more. It even had a DCA for non-kyocera/copystar devices that worked well enough. However I was told the cost per machine was getting out of control. That is why we switched over to EKM

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          • Mick C
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 9

            #6
            Re: Low cost DCA tool

            I would like to see a third party system that doesn't require software install on clients network, we have Ricoh and Sharp brands, Ricoh is great with the "@ Remote " system as it is all set up within the machine and Ricoh's server and just needs to be able to get out through the network, Sharp's MICAS I won't even touch as it is set up on customers network, just prone for failures.

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            • slimslob
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              Site Contributor
              25,000+ Posts
              • May 2013
              • 37033

              #7
              Re: Low cost DCA tool

              Originally posted by Mick C
              I would like to see a third party system that doesn't require software install on clients network, we have Ricoh and Sharp brands, Ricoh is great with the "@ Remote " system as it is all set up within the machine and Ricoh's server and just needs to be able to get out through the network, Sharp's MICAS I won't even touch as it is set up on customers network, just prone for failures.
              Even @Remote can be blocked by the customer's firewall. Often the fear of corporate espionage can have a network locked so tight that you can't get anything out.

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              • GBell
                Junior Member
                • May 2024
                • 2

                #8
                EKM Predictive Insights is pretty darn nice...
                It's way more than a DCA. It will show which accounts are changing toner early, has HP predictive & JAMC built in all in a nice dashboard

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                • SalesServiceGuy
                  Field Supervisor

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                  • Dec 2009
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                  #9

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                  • smith121
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2024
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) is a strategy for investing where you consistently invest a fixed amount of money at regular intervals, regardless of market conditions. While there are several tools available for DCA investing, here are a few low-cost options:
                    1. Robo-Advisors: Many robo-advisors offer DCA as part of their investment services. These platforms use algorithms to automatically invest your money across a diversified portfolio of assets. Some popular low-cost robo-advisors include Betterment, Wealthfront, and M1 Finance. FM WhatsApp
                    2. Online Brokerages: Many online brokerages provide tools and features that allow you to set up automated investments on a recurring basis. Platforms like Vanguard, Fidelity, and Charles Schwab offer low-cost brokerage accounts with DCA options.
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                    • rrrohan
                      Service Manager

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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1977

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hart
                      Re: Low cost DCA tool

                      What ??? We've been nagging Canon for years to have an integrated solution like Sharp (or Epson now with ERS).
                      what solution does sharp offer?

                      I know Konica Minolta has CSRC and HP has SDA but as far as i knew Sharp had nothing and we been relying on email notifications

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                      • Hart
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Feb 2024
                        • 353

                        #12
                        They have SRDM but it's trash so we use email, and it has been more than enough for us (we're moving to Kpax soon).
                        I don't understand why some brands refuse to implement email.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          • Dec 2009
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                          #13
                          Toshiba Canada has free eCloud Connect aka in the USA Elevate Sky Management. It is not as powerful as something like FM Audit which can import meters into a billing system.

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