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  • unisys12
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    • Jul 2007
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    #16
    Originally posted by blackcat4866
    And yes there are several LDAP Servers, and thousands of addresses (it kept exceeding the limit of 65,656 addresses) so it had to be run in proxy mode with a limit of 100 addresses at a time.
    Holy crap! Over 65,000 e-mail addresses!? I have to let that sink in for a bit.... Dang it! There's no smiley that shows a head shaking back and for in an insane fashion.
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    • Copier_Guy
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      #17
      That is some account with that many addresses. Must be a Multi-National account.

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      • djzolla
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        #18
        well if u wanna narrow down your search, ull need to go to search criteria or something like that under the ldap settings.
        go to the command prompt on any computer on the network, type in gpresult...this should bring up loads of info on your screen. what u wanna look for is where it says DC=(domain name), DC=com or DC=(whatever the domain ends with). u can put this kinda stuff in your search criteria to narrow down which domain to look on for the ldap addresses etc. every network is different so kinda hard to say exactly what comes up but hopefully that makes a little sense.
        example my company domain name is londongraphics.co.uk....
        so in search criteria i put in DC=londongraphics, DC=co, DC=uk, my company isnt very big so i dont use search criteria but in your case its the only way of limiting where it searches for stuff
        Last edited by djzolla; 10-11-2007, 01:06 PM.

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        • unisys12
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          #19
          Originally posted by djzolla
          go to the command prompt on any computer on the network, type in gpresult...
          I didn't know this one! This is one that I will be using... and playing around with. Thanks!!
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          • Cipher
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            #20
            Anyone know of any multifunctional that can automatically populate 'scan to email' destinations directly from LDAP and sort them in A-Z lists?

            You know like using LDAP as the main address book source instead of just a search tool.
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            • unisys12
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              #21
              Great question DAZ! And timing... I just had this conversation today with a customer while doing some training on a MPC 3000. Of course it wouldn't work for all accounts, but would be a nice feature none the less. Bear in mind that most of Ricohs newer machines are limited to 2000 E-Mail address on the HDD.

              Another way that someone might want to look into this would be updating the address book of the MFP with CSV files. You could export the names you want in the MFP from the LDAP server list into a CSV file. Then, import that file to the machine through the web interface of the MFP. Only thing is... Can LDAP servers export their databases into CSV files? If not, what about converting the database file to a CSV, then edit it?

              This has me thinking about as much as reading Brian Greene's "Fabric of the Comos"
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              • Cipher
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                #22
                Admins don't want to spend time updating each MFD they simply want destinations updated automatically from a central point (active directory).

                So you would simply bang in the LDAP server details and have the MFD display A-Z lists directly from LDAP on demand.

                Maybe have MFD cache the results temporary for 1-60 mins.
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                • unisys12
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                  #23
                  Yeah, I see what your saying DAZ. I total agree with you also. Sometimes though, I tend to take an idea and instead of building on it or whatever I run with it. This normally leads to my ramblings above.

                  I did find that my idea was already done so... "The Network Configuration and Address Book Editor allows administrators to copy address books from other devices or lists stored within Excel or other data file formats directly to the device from remote terminals." - Panasonic DP-C354

                  But, after several Google searches, I was unable to find a MFP that automatically populated a MFP's address book through a LDAP server or Active Directory.
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                  • Cipher
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                    #24
                    Hmmm I couldn't find anything on google about it either.
                    Just that LDAP is used as a search tool or for user authentication.

                    But a customer told me his Xerox definely uses LDAP to auto populate scan destinations.
                    And everytime he adds or deletes a user on Win2k3 AD the MFD is automatically updated.

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                    • blackcat4866
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                      #25
                      The job accounting codes can be easily imported or exported via CSV file on Copystar/Kyocera using KM-Net for Accounting. If this were a Copystar/Kyocera I think it would depend on the model, if email addresses could be imported/exported. For example, on the Falcon III series machines the send/fax functions are fully accessible via the web interface, and likely could be populated easily. I'm not so sure about the Voyager E series machines. There is limited access to the fax/send functions.

                      Another possibility is backing up email addresses to a compact flash card, moving the card to another like machine, then exporting.
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                      • Nathaniel
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                        • Jan 2008
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                        #26
                        Many MFPs do not directly pull from LDAP since it depends on many things:

                        -Type of LDAP (Active Directory, eDirectory, OpenLDAP)
                        -LDAP connection protocol
                        -Does the customer have a customized LDAP configuration?
                        -Values in a non-standard location of LDAP

                        I'm sure some one some where has written a script to pull AD names and populate them into the WIM of a device.

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                        • Warnock
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #27
                          LDAP

                          Sales is correct, LDAP can be used for that copier to import addresses to the op panel. It requires the LDAP converter, and the PDF instructions for installation. Falcon 3 does not require the converter but you need the same instructions to get an idea how it works. Also, if you can't get that to work, you can try importing a .csv 'comma delimited" file, but it requires the database editor.
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                          • Cipher
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                            #28
                            I was at the customer in question today and he showed me how LDAP works on his Xerox.
                            It is only used as search tool the same as our Ricoh machines so I configured his MPC4500 to do the same.
                            The LDAP search results can be imported to the local address book with a few button presses, so they seemed happy with that.
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