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  • copycowboy
    Technician
    • Aug 2011
    • 18

    Print and Scan over two subnets.

    Can an Mfp be configured to two different subnet. Example: Network A 192.168.0.x , Network B: 172.1.16.x , both networks are connected to the same switch and internet connection, Network A and Network B cannot access each other. What type of routing or forwarding needs to be done on the dedicated switch. Thanks Copycowboy Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as i have never come across this issue.
  • Mr Spock
    Vulcan Inventor of Death
    1,000+ Posts
    • Aug 2006
    • 2064

    #2
    Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

    I bridge or and advanced switch with vlan capabilities. A cisco switch is what most would go with.
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    • markey164

      #3
      Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

      Originally posted by copycowboy
      Can an Mfp be configured to two different subnet. Example: Network A 192.168.0.x , Network B: 172.1.16.x , both networks are connected to the same switch and internet connection, Network A and Network B cannot access each other. What type of routing or forwarding needs to be done on the dedicated switch. Thanks Copycowboy Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as i have never come across this issue.
      Essentially the device cannot be connected to both subnets. To achieve what you're asking, the printer would need an IP address that is valid for each subnet, and that isn't possible. You need to configure it on one subnet, and make it accessible from the other via the switch. To do this you would need to configure the gateway address on the printer that points to the switch. The switch itself knows about both subnets because both are connected to it. It would then need to be configured to route traffic between subnets, so that a PC on one subnet, can reach the printer on the other subnet.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious
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        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22594

        #4
        Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

        What about the simple solution? For printing buy yourself a cheap little USB external print server. Assign the appropriate address to the print server. For scanning assign the machine NIC the address in the second subnet. So you've got $50 in parts and an hour setup. Sound good to me. =^..^=
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        • copycowboy
          Technician
          • Aug 2011
          • 18

          #5
          Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

          Thanks guys . Im going to test out the usb print server scenario. My account does not want to buy any expensive Switches. I have seen these installed before. Any recommendations on a specific brand type it will be going on A Konica Minolta MFP. Thanks

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious
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            • Jul 2007
            • 22594

            #6
            Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

            In the past, I have just Google'd for the cheapest. I haven't had any trouble to speak of with any particular brand. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • copycowboy
              Technician
              • Aug 2011
              • 18

              #7
              Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

              Thanks becuse i worked with some in the past and they were pretty cheeasy , It would lock up alot and prevent them from printing.

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              • KenB
                Geek Extraordinaire
                2,500+ Posts
                • Dec 2007
                • 3946

                #8
                Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                What about the simple solution? For printing buy yourself a cheap little USB external print server. Assign the appropriate address to the print server. For scanning assign the machine NIC the address in the second subnet. So you've got $50 in parts and an hour setup. Sound good to me. =^..^=
                That's exactly what I would recommend as well.Keep in mind, though, that the network that prints through the print server would not be able to scan, nor would the machine's web page be accessible.As stated already, a switch that could do the job would be quite pricey, at least compared to what the customer currently has and is willing to spend.Another possibility, although not as secure, would be to put a second network card in a workstation (assuming there is a workstation with an available slot), and assign IP info to match the other network. You would then share the printer out to the second network. Again, no scanning to the second network, and the "host" PC would need to be turned on (although not necessarily logged into) full time.The risk, of course, is that any other shares on the PC would potentially be seen by the second network. If security is a concern, this approach would absolutely not be a viable option.
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                • ddude
                  General Troublemaker
                  250+ Posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 473

                  #9
                  Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                  Network A and Network B cannot access each other.
                  There is your answer. To work around this, your best solution is a work-around. which network wants which service, and why are they seperate? if scanning to the seperate network is the only issue, use scan-to-email, which does not care about separation.for printing, use IPP.
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                  • copycowboy
                    Technician
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                    Ipp. I forgot about this. I have known about this for a while. Never personally configured it tho. Anyone have any experiences with this at server level. How secure and reliable is this? Thanks

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                    • KenB
                      Geek Extraordinaire
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3946

                      #11
                      Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                      Sorry, in my first post I failed to consider email scanning; that would still work. Pull (TWAIN) scanning would not from the second network.I don't, however, see how IPP printing would work. The two networks still need to be able to see each other, which they cannot until they are bridged in some way.
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                      • copycowboy
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 18

                        #12
                        Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                        I would also be concerned when considering IPP. Becuse that is printing going trough the internet eating up band with .I just dont have enough experience with this protocol to suggest it. thats why i asked the question. How about printing from a Fiery controller and the internal Print controller on the copier Any one try this? thanks

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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious
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                          • Jul 2007
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                          #13
                          Re: Print and Scan over two subnets.

                          Originally posted by copycowboy
                          I would also be concerned when considering IPP. Becuse that is printing going trough the internet eating up band with .I just dont have enough experience with this protocol to suggest it. thats why i asked the question. How about printing from a Fiery controller and the internal Print controller on the copier Any one try this? thanks
                          There's no reason that it wouldn't work, but you've got significant cost going into a fiery controller. I don't know if Konica Minolta offers optional NIC cards, but Kyocera products do. Just a thought ... =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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