Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

[Kyser]

Hello all,

Unfortunately I've been chosen to spear-head research on both Drivve|Print and PaperCut for my company! I've been to both websites, downloaded both trials, read both manuals and they both seem to be fairly similar feature-wise, I like the pull-printing in particular. Does anyone have any real-world experience with both (preferably) or either?

Thanks for any info!

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

Who is your current copier vendor? Do they have any experience installing either of these products?

How close are you to the end of your current lease? What is the monthly payment?

Ideally with either Drivve or Papercut you want a copier vendor who can offer a solution for either product that is embedded into the LCD control panel.

Are you willing to switch copier vendors to get the best solution?

What is your objective?

What are the pain points you hope for this software to solve?

What is your budget?

Are we talking about integration with a single copier or more than one?

How many users in your private company would need licenses to use this software?

[tmaged]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

I have a school district that is using prox cards & Papercut. It holds their jobs in queue & they can be released after they authenticate.
It works pretty slick & haven't had any issues in the two years it's been installed.

[ApeosMan]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

I've never heard of Drivve, though I've come across PaperCut countless times and it seems like a stable easy to use product.

[Kyser]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

Hey, thanks for the replies. Sorry, I should have elaborated earlier, I work for a copier vendor. We're looking to expand into uncharted markets and I was looking for opinions on both products.

It seems they do a lot of the same tasks but are licensed in different ways (Drivve by number of MFPs and Papercut by users) They both integrate into the Sharp OSAs i've installed them on.

I've played around with both, Papercut seems a lot more in-depth than it's counterpart Drivve.

Thanks for the opinions!

[Kyser]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

I have a school district that is using prox cards & Papercut. It holds their jobs in queue & they can be released after they authenticate.
It works pretty slick & haven't had any issues in the two years it's been installed.

The prox cards are pretty sweet. You can even self-register instead of entering each into a database.

[MattL]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

I work for a dealer who mainly provide PaperCut and in the past PCounter. When you mentioned Drivve I had to going and check because as far as I am aware its only scanning they do.

Now having found out there is a Drivve print solutions looking at what is on the website its nothing like PaperCut, PaperCut is a full accounting solution like PCounter, Safecom, Equitrac and various others.

Certinally in the UK Sharp have no mention about Drivve print so I doubt they even support it, if I was you I would stick with PaperCut.

The question I pose is what do you want to achieve as that may lead you to the right answer.

[TheOwl]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

We have been selling and integrating PaperCut MF now for 4 years and have found it to be rock solid.

Little known fact about PaperCut is that if you know JS (Java Script) or are willing to learn, the sky is the limit as you can run your own custom scripts against print jobs.

Say for instance that you want to set it up so that when users print a document that is over a certain page size, you can create a warning that pops up asking if they meant to print the document. You can also have prompts that ask if the user meant to print in colour and if not, gives them the chance to convert the job to greyscale.

I have even made a script that prohibits the printing of email documents over one page.

Other cool features of PaperCut are the iPad and Android printing, account selection for printing costs to be adjusted within departments, printing and copying vouchers that are redeemable by users, being able to brand PaperCut as your own and it keeps on going.

[Kyser]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

We have been selling and integrating PaperCut MF now for 4 years and have found it to be rock solid.

Little known fact about PaperCut is that if you know JS (Java Script) or are willing to learn, the sky is the limit as you can run your own custom scripts against print jobs.

Say for instance that you want to set it up so that when users print a document that is over a certain page size, you can create a warning that pops up asking if they meant to print the document. You can also have prompts that ask if the user meant to print in colour and if not, gives them the chance to convert the job to greyscale.

I have even made a script that prohibits the printing of email documents over one page.

Other cool features of PaperCut are the iPad and Android printing, account selection for printing costs to be adjusted within departments, printing and copying vouchers that are redeemable by users, being able to brand PaperCut as your own and it keeps on going.

The Java implementation is great, I was just experimenting with that the other day. The snippits they include are incredibly easy to use, I think someone with no programming understanding could figure them out.

I have had trouble with printing from an Android device however. From what I understood you have to set up an Admin google account for Papercut (MF if that matters), share the printer on Cloud Print, and share it with the users you want to be able to print. I've followed all steps, tried to print some documents. They show in the Papercut activity log and the Cloud Print log as processing for several minutes then display error. I couldn't find what type of error but I'll have to play with it.

Drivve on the other hand have a mobile printing app from the App stores that kiiiinda works. I'm going to have to put together a presentation on both soon and i'll be sure to upload it on here for other's refrence.

[habik]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

We have few schools using PaperCut MF. We are not involved in maintenance or installation of Paper Cut and I haven't played with it much. What I did noticed though, is that when there is a lot of students printing to the same machine the queue of students is bigger then it used to be before they had PaperCut. So it is nice that you can pull the job to which ever machine you want, what I disliked is print queue being released one job at a time and causing queue of students waiting for the jobs being released by the printserver despite the fact that there is 75ppm machine capable shooting the jobs out before you walk to it.

Owl would you agree with the above?

Is there a way to script it to have the whole queue to print out immediately / perhaps settings ? Is it optional or is this a precaution to have jobs released one at time to avoid over charging the student in case there is a problem with the machine, a.e. jam or service error and queue being lost due to machine being let say switched off etc.


Sorry for crashing the thread

[TheOwl]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

We have few schools using PaperCut MF. We are not involved in maintenance or installation of Paper Cut and I haven't played with it much. What I did noticed though, is that when there is a lot of students printing to the same machine the queue of students is bigger then it used to be before they had PaperCut. So it is nice that you can pull the job to which ever machine you want, what I disliked is print queue being released one job at a time and causing queue of students waiting for the jobs being released by the printserver despite the fact that there is 75ppm machine capable shooting the jobs out before you walk to it.

Owl would you agree with the above?

Is there a way to script it to have the whole queue to print out immediately / perhaps settings ? Is it optional or is this a precaution to have jobs released one at time to avoid over charging the student in case there is a problem with the machine, a.e. jam or service error and queue being lost due to machine being let say switched off etc.


Sorry for crashing the thread

It is an option to use the Hold/Release Queues and you could quite easily create a queue which isn't used for Hold/Release.

In the newer version of PaperCut MF, you can actually select all print jobs and have them all print out instead of one at a time. If you aren't entitled to the upgrade because your site doesn't have Software Assurance, then you could always show them how to release print jobs from their computer by simply going to the web interface of the PaperCut server and logging in as the user. They can then release their print jobs and have them printing before they even leave their seat as you don't have to login to the machines to release your job.

There are many ways to skin the cat so to speak.

[habik]

Re: Drivve vs PaperCut (Print Management Systems)

It is an option to use the Hold/Release Queues and you could quite easily create a queue which isn't used for Hold/Release.

In the newer version of PaperCut MF, you can actually select all print jobs and have them all print out instead of one at a time. If you aren't entitled to the upgrade because your site doesn't have Software Assurance, then you could always show them how to release print jobs from their computer by simply going to the web interface of the PaperCut server and logging in as the user. They can then release their print jobs and have them printing before they even leave their seat as you don't have to login to the machines to release your job.

There are many ways to skin the cat so to speak.

Thank you!