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  • JVC
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2011
    • 151

    #1

    Two networks

    Hello

    My boss sold a machine telling the customer that the Toshiba es4520c could be hooked up to multiple networks. The customer took this as they can be set up at the same time. As usual the service department needs to fulfill sales promises. Does anyone know if this is possible or not.

    Thank you
    Joe
  • emujo
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    • Jun 2009
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    #2
    Re: Two networks

    The MFP only has one network card in it, so it can only be linked to one network...In order for 2 separate networks to utilize the MFP, the networks must be "bridged" together. Emujo
    If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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    • JVC
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      • Jun 2011
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      #3
      Re: Two networks

      Thank you for the quick reply. I was pretty sure of the answer but wanted to check.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        • Jul 2007
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        #4
        Re: Two networks

        I'm not contradicting Emujo, but you can use the USB print port in conjunction with a USB to TCP/IP print server to achieve this end. Back when most printers had parallel ports we did the same thing with a parallel to TCP/IP print server, plus the built in TCP/IP port. Many manufacturers also sell optional TCP/IP interfaces, in particular Kyocera. So with a few hundred dollars you can connect to two or possibly even three networks, depending on how crazy you want to get. And it does not usually require intervention by the customers IT. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • avecosat
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          • Jun 2012
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          #5
          Re: Two networks

          The new KM e series have the possibility conect two networks cards .

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          • emujo
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            • Jun 2009
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            #6
            Re: Two networks

            Originally posted by avecosat
            The new KM e series have the possibility conect two networks cards .
            Technically, true, but the 2nd network selections are for wireless access for mobile devices, and as of now the wireless cards are only available in the US for the new C3850 series, besides, he's asking about a Toshiba. Emujo
            If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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            • slimslob
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              • May 2013
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              #7
              Re: Two networks

              Originally posted by blackcat4866
              I'm not contradicting Emujo, but you can use the USB print port in conjunction with a USB to TCP/IP print server to achieve this end. Back when most printers had parallel ports we did the same thing with a parallel to TCP/IP print server, plus the built in TCP/IP port. Many manufacturers also sell optional TCP/IP interfaces, in particular Kyocera. So with a few hundred dollars you can connect to two or possibly even three networks, depending on how crazy you want to get. And it does not usually require intervention by the customers IT. =^..^=
              That is what I was thinking. I have seen a few inkjet printers with BlueTooth interfaces that could be connected to a network directly, a second network using a network print server as cat said, and a third network through a shared printer on a computer near enough to the printer to use the BlueTooth connection

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              • Tonerbomb
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                • Feb 2005
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                #8
                Re: Two networks

                a few years ago I did something similar with a Savin color box. I slaved the USB print connection as a shared printer of a workstation on network 2, and set the machine on network 1 via the the network interface on tcpip............
                Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

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                  #9
                  Re: Two networks

                  What Okidata used to do is link a C9600 printer to a commercially available scanner, and called it an MFP. The scanner fed the parallel print port, and the TCP/IP port was for printing. Same deal. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • Mr Spock
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                    • Aug 2006
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                    #10
                    Re: Two networks

                    Originally posted by emujo
                    Technically, true, but the 2nd network selections are for wireless access for mobile devices, and as of now the wireless cards are only available in the US for the new C3850 series, besides, he's asking about a Toshiba. Emujo
                    I know of a sales MANAGER that just told me all the KM machines have had a wireless network adapter available, with the exception of the new 35XX machines, since 2006.
                    I disagreed with him but he was positively sure on this so I asked him to show me the part number. He said he was too busy to do this.
                    And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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                    • bdcrandall13
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: Two networks

                      Originally posted by Mr Spock
                      I know of a sales MANAGER that just told me all the KM machines have had a wireless network adapter available, with the exception of the new 35XX machines, since 2006.
                      I disagreed with him but he was positively sure on this so I asked him to show me the part number. He said he was too busy to do this.

                      You could make just about anything wireless with one of these! We use them all the time!
                      TEW-640MB_d04_2.jpghttp://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=270_TEW-640MB

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                      • wseyller
                        Service Manager

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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1129

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bdcrandall13
                        You could make just about anything wireless with one of these! We use them all the time!
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]24978[/ATTACH]http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=270_TEW-640MB
                        Yeah I've had a few customers use a bridge. Some of them don't work reliably. I have charge some of the customers a few hourly network charges when it would have been cheaper and less error prone to just pay to put a network drop to the copier. Some people's mentalities I just don't understand. All I can say is don't put important devices on wireless. Wired is better period.

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                        • emujo
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                          #13
                          Re: Two networks

                          There are wireless network settings (network 2) that you can see in service mode, but the actual wireless cards are only available in the UK. There is a wireless LAN adaptor kit/part# available from KM (SX-something-LAN) but this is only a Silas wireless access point that the MFP must be cabled directly to, and then you set up the Silex to access the customers wireless network. The MFP is not truly wireless. Emujo
                          If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                          • slimslob
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                            #14
                            Re: Two networks

                            Originally posted by Mr Spock
                            I know of a sales MANAGER that just told me all the KM machines have had a wireless network adapter available, with the exception of the new 35XX machines, since 2006.
                            I disagreed with him but he was positively sure on this so I asked him to show me the part number. He said he was too busy to do this.
                            If they were like the Ricohs from the same era, they use WEP instead of WPA which leave the network with very weak wireless security.

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