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  • cucuklotz
    Senior Tech

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    • Mar 2007
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    #1

    CROSSOVER CABLE

    HI, I need to test a network printer I`m having problems with.I want to connect my laptop to printer with crossover as a way to troubleshoot ,to see if problem is printer or network.I have never used one before.I tried to do some research but am a little confused.I know one end goes inti my laptop,where do I connect the other side and will my laptop prompt me as to how to set up or do I need further instructions. Thanks Andy
  • ruben
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    • Oct 2012
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    Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

    With a crossover cable one end goes into the ethernet of the device and the other into the ethernet of the PC.

    Leave the cable unplugged first. If the device has a static IP address, 192.168.1.200 with subnet 255.255.255.0 for example, then your PC should be set to a static IP on the same range and subnet, 192.168.1.201 with subnet 255.255.255.0 for example. It doesn't matter what the PC IP address is, as long as it is different, the subnet needs to be the same.

    Assuming you are using Windows, you will need to assign the IP in Control Panel > Network & Sharing > Change adapter settings > Right click local ethernet > Properties > Double click Internet Protocol Version 4 > Tick Use the following IP address > Enter an IP that is different to the device but on the same range, and the same subnet. Leave the Default gateway and Preferred DNS settings empty.

    If the device is on DHCP, this will need to be turned off and a temporary static IP entered instead.

    When all entered then plug in the cable, any problems with the connection you may have an incorrect or damaged cable or incorrect IP settings on either device or PC.

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    • KenB
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      • Dec 2007
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      Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

      Most newer PCs will auto-sense that the network port is connected directly to another node (in this case the MFP or printer), and automatically adjust for it.

      I know that the notebooks I've had over the past 7 or 8 years did.

      (Shame on me for forgetting the proper term for that...)

      Ruben is spot on with his explanation!
      “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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      • cucuklotz
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        Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

        Hi THANKS guys for the help and fast reply.Customer is away till Monday,I will go there on tues.This will give me time to order crossover cable. Thanks again ANDY

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        • ZOOTECH
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          Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

          Originally posted by cucuklotz
          Hi THANKS guys for the help and fast reply.Customer is away till Monday,I will go there on tues.This will give me time to order crossover cable. Thanks again ANDY
          You can get a crossover cable at most electronics stores (Radio Shack, Frys, etc) without ordering it. This way you can test it before going to customers.
          "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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          • Tonerbomb
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            Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

            Originally posted by ZOOTECH
            You can get a crossover cable at most electronics stores (Radio Shack, Frys, etc) without ordering it. This way you can test it before going to customers.
            Right on, but myself, I just make my own..............................
            Mystic Crystal Revelations

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            • ZOOTECH
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              Originally posted by Tonerbomb
              Right on, but myself, I just make my own..............................
              That's what I would do when I was in my prime, but now it would take too long and it's quicker to go to the store to buy one.
              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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              • Tonerbomb
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                Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                That's what I would do when I was in my prime, but now it would take too long and it's quicker to go to the store to buy one.
                ZOOTECH your just gettin' the party started brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                • sandmanmac
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                  Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                  Originally posted by cucuklotz
                  Hi THANKS guys for the help and fast reply.Customer is away till Monday,I will go there on tues.This will give me time to order crossover cable. Thanks again ANDY
                  Most (if not all) laptops that run Win 7 and beyond don't require a crossover cable. Any old network cable will suffice. That's all I've ever used with my laptop or my crappy old netbook.
                  Last edited by sandmanmac; 07-24-2014, 05:32 AM.

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                  • northernlife
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                    Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                    laptops may have auto mdix support but the copiers generally do not. All it is is the tx and rx pairs are flipped from one end of the cable to the other to eliminate a "repeater" aka switch/hub. Do the same connectivity as if there was an unmanaged switch between your pc and the copier.

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                    • iMind
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                      sigpicWe can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound

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                      • cucuklotz
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                        Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                        HI Im going to customer Monday.I really don't take all the help for granted.THANK YOU.While I have been servicing copiers for almost 40 years,Im VERY LIMITED with computers.Northernlife can you explain to me in laymens terms what I need to do?I very good mechanically but lost with computer. Thank you .ANDY

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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                          He's just saying that the crossover cable works just like having an 5-port switch. Nothing new, just more terminology.

                          This is how I learned. I got thrown under the bus ... then learned a few tricks, then a few more, ... like that. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • wseyller
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                            #14
                            You most likely don't need the crossover cable. Modern computers will auto sense the cable and it will do the crossing over for you in the circuitry. It will do this automatically will no extra effort. Just configure the network adaptor to the same subnet as explained already.

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                            • KenB
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                              • Dec 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: CROSSOVER CABLE

                              One place that you must have a crossover: The Ethernet connection between any Fiery and any brand copier it connects to, at least AFAIK.

                              Perhaps they newest ones will flip it for you, but I somewhat doubt it.

                              While the cable is included with the Fiery, they've been known to get lost, pinched, bitten, etc...

                              There are also some pieces of gear that are almost always found in the customer's network closet or room that require them, but 99% of that is stuff we almost never touch...unless you are providing IT services (which some of us do.).
                              “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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