Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

[doug]

Hi Guys,I have a Canon IRA C5250 with a frozen key op panel including the hard number keys...is it true that I have to upgrade the firmware and if I do, how is this performed?Thanking you in advance,Doug

[teckat]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

Hi Guys,I have a Canon IRA C5250 with a frozen key op panel including the hard number keys...is it true that I have to upgrade the firmware and if I do, how is this performed?Thanking you in advance,Doug

First make sure none of the hard keys are stuck, they all must have a easy release back up when pressed.

Also check connections on main 2 pcb.

[Dredd]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

Check if the energy saver button still works. I had this and it was the 'cpu' board in the control panel assembly. There was an article but i can't find it, something about the clock cycle going out of whack.

Thank, Jason

[markchattell]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

There is a modified CPU board for this fault, details are on Sims. Change the board update the firmware and will work perfect. The firmware needs to be decoded through service support tool and transfer to a USB stick and hold down 2+8 and follow the on screen instructions.

[Canuck]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

Modified CPU pcb for control panel....FM1-R833...

[Canuck]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

There is a modified CPU board for this fault, details are on Sims. Change the board update the firmware and will work perfect. The firmware needs to be decoded through service support tool and transfer to a USB stick and hold down 2+8 and follow the on screen instructions.

Firmware does not have to be decoded through SST on this model. Just download the USB packaged version...

[teckat]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

control panel lockups or there is a slow Response on the screen, and slow responding keys. The symptom includes the touch panel and 10 key pad does not respond correctly but only the Energy Saver key works fine

Replacing the CPU under the control panel resolved the problem.

imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5030 / C5035 / C5045 / C5051 CPU PCB assembly is FM3-7994-000
imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5235 / C5240 / C5250 / C5255 CPU PCB assembly is FM4-9880-000




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Sometimes dirt can buildup between the touch panel and the control panel cover. This buildup over time causes downward pressure to the touch panel and it stops responding. Going around the entire perimeter of the screen, take a business card or other firm type of media and slide it between the touch panel and the control panel cover.

or try1. Turn OFF the main power switch and check that the Control Panel LED is off
2. Using a pen point, press the test button of the breaker on the rear side of the machine
3. Check that the breaker switch is OFF (O side)
4. Return the breaker switch to ON (I side)
5. Turn ON the main power switch

[Canuck]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

control panel lockups or there is a slow Response on the screen, and slow responding keys. The symptom includes the touch panel and 10 key pad does not respond correctly but only the Energy Saver key works fine

Replacing the CPU under the control panel resolved the problem.

imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5030 / C5035 / C5045 / C5051 CPU PCB assembly is FM3-7994-000
imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5235 / C5240 / C5250 / C5255 CPU PCB assembly is FM4-9880-000




or-------------------
Sometimes dirt can buildup between the touch panel and the control panel cover. This buildup over time causes downward pressure to the touch panel and it stops responding. Going around the entire perimeter of the screen, take a business card or other firm type of media and slide it between the touch panel and the control panel cover.

or try1. Turn OFF the main power switch and check that the Control Panel LED is off
2. Using a pen point, press the test button of the breaker on the rear side of the machine
3. Check that the breaker switch is OFF (O side)
4. Return the breaker switch to ON (I side)
5. Turn ON the main power switch

9880 is old number. Order FM1-R833...Canon will sub it anyway. Changed dozens of these things

[Tricky]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

Firmware does not have to be decoded through SST on this model. Just download the USB packaged version...

In Europe we still have to use sst as there are no flash ready downloads, however as the original poster appears to be in New Jersey this reply is mainly irrelevant.

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[Symptom]
The touch panel in the control panel assembly and the numbers key top may have slow response or may not respond properly
against input although the sleep key top works properly.
[Cause]
A failure of the clock in the CPU chip of CPU PCB assembly is the cause. There are reports stating that the issue occurred about
6 months to 2 years after start of use.
[Reference] The sleep key top is not affected by the failure in the CPU chip and continues to work properly because the sleep
key top does not require CPU PCB assembly to work.
[Service work]
When the above symptom occurs, replace the CPU PCB assembly with the new type according to the table below.
[Note] When the issue occurs, check that only the sleep key top works properly. If it does not work either, check for other causes.

[kuby]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

C5235 frozen key op panel. Is there a Tech bulletin about this? Someone said there was but I can not seem to find it.

[wcanonw]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

control panel lockups or there is a slow Response on the screen, and slow responding keys. The symptom includes the touch panel and 10 key pad does not respond correctly but only the Energy Saver key works fine

Replacing the CPU under the control panel resolved the problem.

imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5030 / C5035 / C5045 / C5051 CPU PCB assembly is FM3-7994-000
imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5235 / C5240 / C5250 / C5255 CPU PCB assembly is FM4-9880-000




or-------------------
Sometimes dirt can buildup between the touch panel and the control panel cover. This buildup over time causes downward pressure to the touch panel and it stops responding. Going around the entire perimeter of the screen, take a business card or other firm type of media and slide it between the touch panel and the control panel cover.

or try1. Turn OFF the main power switch and check that the Control Panel LED is off
2. Using a pen point, press the test button of the breaker on the rear side of the machine
3. Check that the breaker switch is OFF (O side)
4. Return the breaker switch to ON (I side)
5. Turn ON the main power switch

hello I have the same problem with a canon irac5235, perform dirt cleaning between the touch panel and the control panel cover, check panel pcb connector and main controller. Press the switch test button on the back of the machine off and on. the printer was turned on again and the control panel worked well, the next day the control panel presented the same problem. when I press the switch test button on the back again, the printer control panel works fine. Is it necessary to change PCB assembly is FM4-9880-000 or update the firmware ?. I don't have the firmware to be able to perform the update

[copier tech]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

C5235 frozen key op panel. Is there a Tech bulletin about this? Someone said there was but I can not seem to find it.

This was one of the bulletins most common the IRA C2xxx Series.

Measure against malfunction of touch panel in control panel.pdf

[JR Skewing]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

A client has an IRA c5250 with a control panel that was AFU. The 'Energy Saver' key functioned OK.
I installed a salvaged control panel ass'y that I obtained from a buddy; it incorporated PCB P/N FM1-R833.
Problem solved.
Plug and play, no software upgrade needed.
Life is (sometimes) good.
[ edit - BTW, this was in the USA ]
...Lorenzo

[magictoner]

Re: Canon IRA C5250 "frozen key op panel"

9880 is old number. Order FM1-R833...Canon will sub it anyway. Changed dozens of these things

I have a Canon IRA C5235A, the board is new style "FM1-R833" already. But it was frozen screen. I touched the power saver button, it went off, but couldn't turn back on. I have to power off the machine, and power back on, then the touch screen works OK. Do you think it is another problem?