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  • Penvy
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Oct 2008
    • 237

    #1

    ghost image drum Info

    You Guys helped out and I would like to return the favor.

    Sometimes when your in the middle of a drum change you may not think of this.
    Most shops have the lights away from the work station your at.
    regular light bulbs are not usually a problem

    The one thing I forgot was the newer power saving bulbs are NOT the same thing at all.
    Yes there very good at getting the most light for the watt
    BUT there is a lot of UV in them "sunlight" is a good source also..hahaha

    Well the problem was the drum was exposed to this.......not for long
    less that 30 sec. out of the box and plastic wrapping and so on.

    Installing the drum and running test revealed a image that would not go away...even after 200 copies.

    BAD drum? its happened sure.
    ordered another one and 2 days later I started to change it out.

    Image was gone.............. and even looked as if it was not going to have to be changed at all.

    well nit pick it to death and you could find anything you want on the ghost image.

    turns out as many of the tech's do is make it work and 99 % of the time thats what you do!

    The point is the replacement drum Was exposed to a light source that had a lot of UV light from the power saving bulb.

    The change out was not really needed for B&W pic's or copy.
    The ghost image after so many cycles finally did go away.
    BUT.................If you can dim the lights.........or..........
    Shield the drum like it was in a Dark room photo shop.


    AND on color drums.........10X's worse

    Hope this helps......................
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 23008

    #2
    Depending on the type of drum, light shock isn't usually an issue within 30 seconds.

    The old Selenium Tellurium and Arsenic Triselenide were OK in regular room light up to 10 minutes. Most of the more careful techs would still "tent" the drums so they didn't get direct light exposure.

    The old Cadmium drums were a little more tolerant, 20-25 minutes.

    Organic drums are quite tolerant of light, 30 minutes or more.

    Amorphose Silicon drums are the most tolerant. I've seen a few sit around in room light for a week or more. There was some light shocking that did diminish with time like you describe.

    I can imagine that UV rich room light would speed up light shock. Direct sunlight is the worst. I still can't imagine anything happening within 30 seconds though. The cure, as you know, is plain old copying with minimal fill. Charge the drum. Discharge the drum. Charge, discharge, charge, discharge. Depending on how long the light exposure, will define how many cycles it take to minimize the light shock.

    In the worst cases light shock can stay permanently on a drum.

    What type of drum does the C1 use? =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • Penvy
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Oct 2008
      • 237

      #3
      Expensive drums what else! $800. 1 drum. 150k life

      The uv is what I was talking about with the light source too close to the work table.

      It happened to me under what I would have thought normal conditions.

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      • Oze
        Ricoh Fanboy

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2008
        • 1663

        #4
        C1 drums are organic...they look very similar to CLC1100 drums.

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        • time2fly
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jul 2008
          • 134

          #5
          I have had this problem before, not in such short amount of time but what I did was turned off the copier when I left most of the time someone won't need it right away and that may give the drum enough time to discharge in total darkness with no currant to it. It worked for me.

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          • Canuck
            Tech Specialist

            1,000+ Posts
            • Nov 2007
            • 1713

            #6
            Yeah C1 is OPC drum like clc drum...just leave it in the dark for a while it recovers

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