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  • Zoren
    Technicien de copieur

    50+ Posts
    • Jan 2009
    • 99

    #1

    iR 3035 jam

    its been 2 days now im trying to figure out what is causing this paper jam detected on lower vertical path roller but there is no paper or anything blocking this sensor. i have already inter-change the sensor from the other sensor but still indicates jammed paper on the lower vertical path roller... lastly, i switched both paper feeding assembly thinking i can make a better isolation but the problem stays in the same position...

    anyone...... give me an educated suggestions please... btw, dc control pcb is ok. already tried new dc control pcb the problem stays the same
    Just came out from hybernation.....
  • Oze
    Ricoh Fanboy

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2008
    • 1663

    #2
    Check the sensor in the door that sits above the transfer roller..also...we need jam codes to help you out.

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    • Oze
      Ricoh Fanboy

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2008
      • 1663

      #3
      Woops..wrong machine...check the pre registration flag

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      • Brian8506
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2009
        • 1664

        #4
        I've had the pre reg flag stick in. Look at that

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        • Zoren
          Technicien de copieur

          50+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 99

          #5
          is that it!! how could i've missed that....

          now, i need to go again on a 620mi. soujourn (damn! i hate flying out-of-town)...
          Just came out from hybernation.....

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          • Zoren
            Technicien de copieur

            50+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 99

            #6
            ????? no service handbook, no wonder i could've missed that......


            w/c pre-registration flag are we mentioning here???

            coz as i've said lower and upper feeder ass'y, i switched position both of them... actuators and sensors are good in those feeder ass'y as i have manually jammed each sensors to even make sure different jamming detection location... except for this one partular jam...

            that machine is 1000+ kilometers away from where i am now. perhaps a scanned parts list diagram or mentioning the exact position of the pre-registration will give me a better idea where to look at and even the odds of headaches of flying out there...

            tnx again
            Just came out from hybernation.....

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            • Oze
              Ricoh Fanboy

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2008
              • 1663

              #7
              The pre registration flag sits above the paper feed assembly...it sits where the transparency sensor is and in an iR3035 it has a little metal clip covering it...this clip sometimes opens up and catches on the machine frame.

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              • mrfixit51
                Lead Service Technician

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2008
                • 1975

                #8
                Originally posted by Oze
                Check the pre registration flag
                This is the flag sensor below the steel registration roller, some have a metal striking surface, others are simply plastic. They can wear to the point where paper can get beyond the flag without deflecting the actuator far enough to actuate the sensor. This applies to 01 type jams at that sensor.

                FC5-0484-000 flag, pre-registration sensor
                "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                • Zoren
                  Technicien de copieur

                  50+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 99

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oze
                  The pre registration flag sits above the paper feed assembly...it sits where the transparency sensor is and in an iR3035 it has a little metal clip covering it...this clip sometimes opens up and catches on the machine frame.
                  if this pre-reg. flag sits above the paper feed ass'y. i'm sure i never missed this one coz the metal clip covering it is intact... i checked every sensors / actuators with and w/o a metal clip on it, all are ok and even actuated them manually to know if those sensors are working...

                  ok, the only error the machine shows in the control panel is a blinking lower side door open and a red lit indicator that shows it has a paper on that location but there is no jammed paper.
                  Just came out from hybernation.....

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                  • mrfixit51
                    Lead Service Technician

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1975

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zoren
                    if this pre-reg. flag sits above the paper feed ass'y. i'm sure i never missed this one coz the metal clip covering it is intact... i checked every sensors / actuators with and w/o a metal clip on it, all are ok and even actuated them manually to know if those sensors are working...

                    ok, the only error the machine shows in the control panel is a blinking lower side door open and a red lit indicator that shows it has a paper on that location but there is no jammed paper.
                    What jam code are you getting for this problem?
                    "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                    • Canuck
                      Tech Specialist

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1713

                      #11
                      Cheat the side door interlocks...if it goes away then you have something on the door hanging it up. if so loosen the door screws close the door then tighten them. If you still got it then wiring,dirty sensor(pre-reg is at rear)..check the connector...i know you swapped pick-up assemblies but the other side of the connector that it plugs into could be loose. Above all, need jam code!

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                      • Zoren
                        Technicien de copieur

                        50+ Posts
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 99

                        #12
                        i did checked everything... interlocks anyhing that i can see with a sensors and actuators.. open the back covers and see where the wiring connectors goes and where it ends...

                        Above all, there is no jam code!



                        Originally posted by mrfixit51
                        What jam code are you getting for this problem?
                        there wasnt any jam code on the control panel except for that red lit indicator showing the location of a jammed paper and the lower side door blinks open with a hand pointing where the jam is...... as i have said reapeatedly every possible sensor that i can see, i checked each one of them swap each one after the other just to be sure if there is a blind sensor or not....
                        Just came out from hybernation.....

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                        • Brian8506
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1664

                          #13
                          The jam code is under display in service mode. Sounds like you need a manual.

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                          • Ikon Princess
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 126

                            #14
                            Me thinks thou is not a technician!

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                            • Zoren
                              Technicien de copieur

                              50+ Posts
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 99

                              #15
                              i dont have a manual here...


                              cant figure out what is wrong with that machine. its like i'm troubleshooting blind... but if i have a atleast a parts manual im sure i can figure out w/c sensor i have possibly missed... im just here getting enuf info and suggestions b4 i fly out there coz that copier is pretty isolated one and only machine.....
                              Just came out from hybernation.....

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