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  • Brian8506
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    • Feb 2009
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    #1

    IR600 W/ D1

    I can 1 run a set of 5 or less copies but when I select 2 sets, the 1st set loads on the staple tray and goes into a jam code 0017. Next set is jammed in the finisher and thru the copier. Haven't tried more than 5. May try that today. I can staple 1 set and have it staple and eject from the staple tray. Copier works fine with finisher detached
  • 11x17
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    • Apr 2007
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    #2
    I would focus on the buffer path rollers. My thinking is that with one set the paper path around the buffer rollers is not used but with multiple sets after the first set it is going to have to use the buffer paper path while it is stapling the first set. Its been quite awhile since I worked on a 600 but I can recall having to replace buffer rollers. How many copies? Maybe try cleaning rollers.

    Good luck

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    • Brian8506
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      #3
      Thanks for the quick reply. Does it use the buffer rollers to staple 1 set? I hadn't thought of that. The paper stops in the buffer rollers in the same place every time so today I'll clean those rollers and check for bad or broken sensor. 2.5M on machine.

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      • 11x17
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        • Apr 2007
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        #4
        I dont think it uses those rollers for the first set because it doesnt need to delay any incoming pages. One other thought is to check and make sure the proper gate is being opened (solenoid) so that the paper is going in the correct paper path.

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        • 20YRSEXP
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          • Oct 2008
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          #5
          When you do more than one set the buffer roller will take up the pages and deposit them for stapling. This is so the stapler has time to process the previous set. Where the first sheet on the second set is would be what I focus on. If it is wrapping around the roller and the gates are both open make sure it is reaching the S2 buffer sensor. If the page is starting down toward the stapler that would mean the lower gate wasn't opening to start the wrap on the roller. I have seen the solenoid go bad as well as the arm for the gate break on the front side so the solenoid would actuate but the gate doesn't open. If it is reaching the sensor it may need cleaning as well as cleaning the buffer roller (always a good idea).
          Is the glass half full or half empty? I say neither. The glass is obviously full, full of potential. The potential to hold more water or the potential to quench a thirst. Life is all about how you see it.

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          • Brian8506
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            #6
            Solenoids work fine, cleaned buffer rollers with no luck. Paper stops after hitting sensor in buffer rollers. I've ordered the sensor and little pcb in there and will see if that works. Will repost.

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            • Canuck
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              • Nov 2007
              • 1713

              #7
              If 1 set runs fine but not 2 you might have a jogger problem in the processing(stapling) tray. Turn off the offseting when programming the job(joggers will just tamp sheets straight but not push stack to offset)....its a start

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              • Brian8506
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                #8
                I'll try that next. Sensor pcb and sensor didn't work. It gets stranger. Only ltr jams. Lgl, ltrr and 11x17 work fine.

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                • 11x17
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                  • Apr 2007
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                  #9
                  I think only letter size is wrapped around buffer. All others go straight thru.

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                  • Desert Rat
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                    • May 2008
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                    #10
                    I have seen on a different finisher, the D-1 I believe, where the stop for
                    the solenoid broke and let the gate drop into the paper path.
                    I found it by letting a sheet jam and manually turn the rollers or what ever
                    I could to feed the paper through. It got caught on one of the gate
                    fingers. Check the lead edge of the jammed sheet for damage. If there is
                    any damage, folds or dimples try to match it up to something in the paper
                    path.
                    More than once I have had to re-read the theroy on the paper path.

                    HTH

                    DR

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