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  • SESHU
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    • Feb 2009
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    #16
    Originally posted by mrfixit51
    When you are making copies thru the ADF, are you selecting the paper to be copied onto, or is the selection set to AUTO?

    Try it on AUTO,, if it feeds shorter paper than your original, then the problem lies in your ADF, because it cannot sense the paper length. Check your entry tray length sensors,, they both should be activated by legal paper or longer.
    HI...
    I CAN TRY WHAT YOU SAYS.......

    PROBLEM LIKE AS IT IS COMMING...CANNOT IMPROVE AND CANNOT ACTIVATED??????

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    • SESHU
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      #17
      In auto paper select mode thru adf

      Originally posted by mrfixit51
      when you are making copies thru the adf, are you selecting the paper to be copied onto, or is the selection set to auto?

      Try it on auto,, if it feeds shorter paper than your original, then the problem lies in your adf, because it cannot sense the paper length. Check your entry tray length sensors,, they both should be activated by legal paper or longer.
      hi.. MR FIXIT..

      In auto paper select mode thru adf .....

      I can put in to a4r paper in adf and set to guide a4r. And paper select set in to auto. O.k then press start key.. It will take a scan just moving paper then it will ask load the ltr R paper....auto set it will go to lgl tray displays.

      Next one ..

      I can put into lgl paper and set to guide lgl in adf then set to auto paper select .then press start key as well as just moving ..it will ask load the 11x17 size paper .. Auto select goes to a3 tray displays...

      What to do????

      [[i think in CASE IN feeder function cannot set to a4r ,lgl,a3 PAPER sizes.,, THAT Y CANNOT DETECT OTHER SIZES]]

      how can i find out??????
      AND WHAT TO DO FOR BETTER RESULT...

      please reply for solution.........

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      • mrfixit51
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        • Oct 2008
        • 1975

        #18
        Service mode

        Feeder

        Function

        TRY-A4 , set width guides to A4 marks, (place A4 paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

        TRY-A5R , set width guides to A5R marks, (place A5R paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

        TRY-LTR , set width guides to LTR marks, (place LTR paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

        TRY-LTRR , set width guides to LTRR marks, (place LTRR paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

        This is how the width adjustment is performed. The length is determined by the 2 senor flags on the right side of the entry tray.
        "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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        • SESHU
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          #19
          Originally posted by mrfixit51
          Service mode

          Feeder

          Function

          TRY-A4 , set width guides to A4 marks, (place A4 paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

          TRY-A5R , set width guides to A5R marks, (place A5R paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

          TRY-LTR , set width guides to LTR marks, (place LTR paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

          TRY-LTRR , set width guides to LTRR marks, (place LTRR paper in the tray) the O.K. Button

          This is how the width adjustment is performed. The length is determined by the 2 senor flags on the right side of the entry tray.
          iam check what ever you says...
          all 4 results are o.k.

          but...

          I WANT MAKE A COPIES THRU ADF A4 ,LGL, A4R ,A3 COPIES....

          I DONT USE WHAT U CHOOSE PAPER SIZES..

          then how can you adjust above you choose paper sizes.. then to my paper sizes..

          in function mode there are a4, a5r, ltr,ltrr sizes only displays..

          but there is no display other sizes...


          so what to do mr fixit.......
          Last edited by SESHU; 12-01-2009, 06:43 AM.

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          • davidj7
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            #20
            okay people we have small communication problem.The paper seshu is refering to LGL/Legal .The length of the paper is different from what canon knows as LGL. I had the same problem with ADF in 605 onwards. We have somehow managed to work around the problem.I'll check and get the details.if what i assume is correct then in copy .5 inch from the trailing edge would be erased.


            Why its not working in A3 i have no idea. So either his adf has a problem or someone has screwed up the settings.


            my suggestion to seshu is first forget about LGL ,try to get A4R and A3 correct , check your adf in another machine if you have.
            a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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            • SESHU
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              #21
              Originally posted by davidj7
              okay people we have small communication problem.The paper seshu is refering to LGL/Legal .The length of the paper is different from what canon knows as LGL. I had the same problem with ADF in 605 onwards. We have somehow managed to work around the problem.I'll check and get the details.if what i assume is correct then in copy .5 inch from the trailing edge would be erased.


              Why its not working in A3 i have no idea. So either his adf has a problem or someone has screwed up the settings.


              my suggestion to seshu is first forget about LGL ,try to get A4R and A3 correct , check your adf in another machine if you have.

              iam already checked two mechines...
              these mechines worked perfectly.. a4,lgl, a4r,a3 .. these are copies worked thru adf...

              my mechine also worked all sizes in adf / platern whenever iam newly take the mechine...worked great . iam apreciated that time also..

              mostly iam using in that time a4 copies heavily.

              after one month completed ..it will come some problem. copies came out one side poor light and one side copy good. means page horigentally half page light half page dark..

              then iam complaint gives whenever iam taking my mechine. he service engineer) will come and checking all parts. allare very good. last chance will goto he do a ram reseted.

              then it will comes very good. in that time iam not checked all sizes in adf.

              after some days iam checked lgl (legal) , a4r , and a3 . (without a4) thru adf. cannot come clearly. half page copy printed. half page white.
              then problem i found it.

              that's y my problem it comes whenever he reseted the ram.
              i think he ram reseted . all functions including feeder functions also erased/reseted..

              that's y adf cannot take other sizes (without a4)..

              now i want in feeder function set to lgl (legal), a4r and a3 paper sizes.
              how??????
              in feeder function displays a4, a5r, ltr, ltrr. sizes . i also checked
              what ever do mr fixit says. all result o.k!.

              how can i set/change (feeder function ) a5r, ltr, ltrr sizes to a4r, lgl(legal),a3 sizes...

              how can i do..

              how can i set it...

              what to do?????

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              • montana
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                • Aug 2008
                • 392

                #22
                hi..i think your broplem is related to the cassette paper size ...you have to specify the paper size of the cassette by turning the paper size knob to the desired paper size.. A4...A4R...A3..etc..check & adjust the size of paper in the cassette..i hope it is help.

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                • mrfixit51
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1975

                  #23
                  Hello Seshu,

                  You are not checking things in the function mode as I described,, you are telling the copier that the width guides are at a certain point in their travel.

                  The clearing/resetting procedure knocks out those settings.

                  Just do the A4 and A5R settings. Do as I described. Put the guides in the proper place for the paper type, highlight that setting in the left column, and then press the o.k. button. The machine will now take those two settings to determine the width of the page, no matter where you place the guides thereafter. I can make myself no clearer on this procedure....
                  "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                  • SESHU
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                    #24
                    i can do these setting above ten times...

                    Originally posted by mrfixit51
                    Hello Seshu,

                    You are not checking things in the function mode as I described,, you are telling the copier that the width guides are at a certain point in their travel.

                    The clearing/resetting procedure knocks out those settings.

                    Just do the A4 and A5R settings. Do as I described. Put the guides in the proper place for the paper type, highlight that setting in the left column, and then press the o.k. button. The machine will now take those two settings to determine the width of the page, no matter where you place the guides thereafter. I can make myself no clearer on this procedure....

                    hi.. mrfixit..

                    i can do each and every thing five times above checking.. whatever you says right thing...

                    place the proper paper and place the right paper size guide. and press the o.k button..

                    result is : service .. o.k !

                    every time iam checking result its comming.. o.k!!!

                    what to do...

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                    • davidj7
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                      #25
                      could you scan a copy and upload it here
                      a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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                      • karta
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 15

                        #26
                        1. after U set the tray adf as shown, click the display and there is ..
                        FeedSize _____ pls try one copy lgl or FLSCP Paper. FeedSIze shown the machine's sensor read. pls check out the FeedSize if LGL we'll get blank white the correct is FLSCP

                        2. Pls to setting :
                        Copier (level 1) Option > Body > ModelSZ= 3 ( 0 = A Type, 1= Inch, 2= B, 3= Inch and A/B Type
                        Copier (Level 2) Option > Body > ORG_LGL = 1 ( default is 0 )

                        3. if it doesnot work pls Re-Install the System Software.

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                        • SESHU
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by karta
                          1. After u set the tray adf as shown, click the display and there is ..
                          Feedsize _____ pls try one copy lgl or flscp paper. Feedsize shown the machine's sensor read. Pls check out the feedsize if lgl we'll get blank white the correct is flscp

                          2. Pls to setting :
                          Copier (level 1) option > body > modelsz= 3 ( 0 = a type, 1= inch, 2= b, 3= inch and a/b type
                          copier (level 2) option > body > org_lgl = 1 ( default is 0 )

                          3. If it doesnot work pls re-install the system software.

                          thank you for replying....

                          You are saying this is for adf or platern????
                          This problem is only adf!!!

                          O.k.. I will check whatever you says....

                          I will go to first feed size try to a one lgl copy in to adf.... That is displys feed size is empty... When put lgl copy and press to start it will disply feed size j-b4 and try wide displays 1562.

                          as well as i go to a4r- feed size displys ..j-b5r and try wide displys 1485.

                          now what to do????

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                          • MrB
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                            #28
                            The other thing you may want to check on the tray
                            Check the Switch on the RH side at the front
                            NOT the dial, but the little white plastic switch right of the dial
                            Had it once and it confused the hell out of me till i swapped C1 & C3 over

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                            • SESHU
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                              #29
                              problem is only in adf...

                              Originally posted by MrB
                              The other thing you may want to check on the tray
                              Check the Switch on the RH side at the front
                              NOT the dial, but the little white plastic switch right of the dial
                              Had it once and it confused the hell out of me till i swapped C1 & C3 over

                              hi...
                              all copies working through platern...

                              but when i make copies thru adf ...does not came out clearly...
                              problem is only for adf settings...

                              how can i set it adf settings.. a4r and lgl,a3 copies.........

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                              • pirate

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SESHU
                                hi...
                                all copies working through platern...

                                but when i make copies thru adf ...does not came out clearly...
                                problem is only for adf settings...

                                how can i set it adf settings.. a4r and lgl,a3 copies.........
                                1.check the sensors in the adf tray
                                2.check the sensor cable in the adf tray
                                3.Try to make a copy in AUTO mode

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