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  • teckat
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    #16
    Originally posted by badboys
    Check for its lifespan>service mode>copier>counter>drbl-1> if the trf_belt hits 100% or above, replace it. Lifespan of a single belt=300k. Had encounter similar problem recently with some refurbished set....good luck & cheers.

    don't believe everything Canon establishes for a Printer/
    it usually bites u in the butt first

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    • Fer
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      #17
      Had this issue once, but after trying all the remedy's mentioned here above. I had to gave up, a colleage searched for another day finaly discovering that on laser unit wasn't properly aligned.

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      • teckat
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        #18
        Originally posted by Fer
        Had this issue once, but after trying all the remedy's mentioned here above. I had to gave up, a colleage searched for another day finaly discovering that on laser unit wasn't properly aligned.
        KOOL !!!
        I posted a picture w/instructions on that procedure, earlier in post

        procedure is effective when u do all Lasers/ instead of trial & error swapping
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        • SCREWTAPE
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          #19
          Ahhhhhh

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          • Fer
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            #20
            Originally posted by teckat
            KOOL !!!
            I posted a picture w/instructions on that procedure, earlier in post

            procedure is effective when u do all Lasers/ instead of trial & error swapping
            No no, i didn't mean the laser wasn't in "0" position. Problem was caused by the black guides keeping the whole laserunit in position. Moving the guides, held in place with red lackered screws, was the sollution.

            I didn't notice this when resetting the lasers and putting them back, luckily my colleage did.

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            • teckat
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              #21
              Head duh.jpg

              Left the Eyeglasses Home again'
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              • Martins_Vision

                #22
                Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                Your lasers my need to be manually reset back to home position.

                Also make sure your firmware is up to date.
                Can you help me ? i had two 3220 shiped and they got knocked around abit got the lasers off HP the images on here are gone do you still have them? can you walk me thru?

                info@martinsezprint.com

                Thanks
                Jacob
                Last edited by Guest; 11-26-2013, 07:45 PM. Reason: more info

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                • teckat
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                  #23
                  Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                  Originally posted by Martins_Vision
                  Can you help me ? i had two 3220 shiped and they got knocked around abit got the lasers off HP the images on here are gone do you still have them? can you walk me thru?

                  info@martinsezprint.com

                  Thanks
                  Jacob
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                  First ?
                  are u a tech ?

                  Preventive measures for possible color displacement in the paper feed (sub scanning) and the main scan (front to rear) direction--
                  see link / I accept no responsibilities if u cause more issues
                  Canon TP03 174f.pdf/ posted in Google-




                  have u tried to do a FULL ADJUST-AUTO CALIBRATION / before playing around with Lasers ?
                  did u remove & inspect the ITB UNIT's position ?
                  what TEST PRINTS have u printed out for inspection / especially the PG6 Grid

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                  • Martins_Vision

                    #24
                    Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                    Yes did an auto adj , also swaped out transferbelt from another ( i have 10 of these) ive swaped out just about everything. test sheets (pg6 grid ) look the same on both machines just ones farther out than the other.. i can upload scans if it helps.. should i wait on the laser tare down isnt bad on these ( isnt great ethier) and ive been told centering the laser is easy i just didnt know where HP was should i wait? i just asume its the laser becase the way they where treated on the truck..
                    ( aslo i formated fiery back to factory) and went threw all the menues


                    Thanks for all your Help

                    Jacob
                    [QUOTE=teckat;391230]------------------------------

                    First ?
                    are u a tech ?

                    Preventive measures for possible color displacement in the paper feed (sub scanning) and the main scan (front to rear) direction--
                    see link / I accept no responsibilities if u cause more issues
                    Canon TP03 174f.pdf/ posted in Google-




                    have u tried to do a FULL ADJUST-AUTO CALIBRATION / before playing around with Lasers ?
                    did u remove & inspect the ITB UNIT's position ?
                    what TEST PRINTS have u printed out for inspection / especially the PG6 Grid

                    OTE]

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                    • teckat
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                      #25
                      Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                      Posted google link above has Canon pdf 3200\3220 LASER PROCEDURE
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                      • Martins_Vision

                        #26
                        Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                        sweet thank you very much thats what i needed .. Thank You .. i do have i more ? if you can help i got E751-1302 error (not jam) any clue? keeps getting worse like its a count but i cant find it anywhere i thought it was toner starvation but switched drum and toner and hoper moters are good like i said cant find it anywhere ( and error location is 5 if i remeber right thats the printer itself so its not the main controller and the finisher and everything is unpluged

                        Once again thanks for your help your a life saver...

                        Thanks
                        Jacob

                        Originally posted by teckat
                        Posted google link above has Canon pdf 3200\3220 LASER PROCEDURE

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                        • teckat
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                          Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                          Originally posted by Martins_Vision
                          sweet thank you very much thats what i needed .. Thank You .. i do have i more ? if you can help i got E751-1302 error (not jam) any clue? keeps getting worse like its a count but i cant find it anywhere i thought it was toner starvation but switched drum and toner and hoper moters are good like i said cant find it anywhere ( and error location is 5 if i remeber right thats the printer itself so its not the main controller and the finisher and everything is unpluged

                          Once again thanks for your help your a life saver...

                          Thanks
                          Jacob
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                          E751-1302

                          E751 The connection of the drum unit /toner container is faulty.
                          The mark x indicates color [Y=1, M=2, C=3, K=4].

                          000x The connection of the drum unit (at the printer side) is faulty.
                          100x The connection of the toner container (at the printer side) is faulty.
                          010x Built-in memory writing error in the drum unit.
                          110x Built-in memory writing error in the toner container.
                          020x Built-in memory data error in the drum unit.
                          120x Built-in memory data error in the toner container.
                          030x Built-in memory writing error in the drum unit (When the number of retry exceeds the
                          specified value)
                          130x Built-in memory writing error in the toner container (When the number of retry exceeds
                          the specified value).



                          means there is an issue with the toner system. The machine is checking for the presence of toner.

                          check your MAGENTA Drum/ & Magenta Toner Cartridge
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                          • Jake292
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                            #28
                            Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                            Not to hi-jack this thread but, I am having a similar problem. I have tried most of what's advised here; new cleaner, cleaned all sensors, cleaned rollers of ITB assy, cleaned inside of ITB, new ITB, realigned lasers. The ITB gear, ITB swing arm gear, and ITB drive great are all perfect; I have even watched the ITB gears while running more crappy copies and there is no skipping or slippage. Most of what I have done has yielded little or no improvement of color alignment. The black is perfectly in position when making copies or prints, each successive color is further out of place. It seems too uniform and repeatable to be something slipping. And, each color is almost perfectly spaced between the black lines. The yellow is the same distance from the black as the magenta is from the yellow, the even spacing makes me think there's something else at work here but no clue what (and fully understand I could be wrong about that hunch).

                            color displacement.jpg

                            Getting desperate,
                            Jake

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                            • teckat
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                              #29
                              Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                              Originally posted by Jake292
                              Not to hi-jack this thread but, I am having a similar problem. I have tried most of what's advised here; new cleaner, cleaned all sensors, cleaned rollers of ITB assy, cleaned inside of ITB, new ITB, realigned lasers. The ITB gear, ITB swing arm gear, and ITB drive great are all perfect; I have even watched the ITB gears while running more crappy copies and there is no skipping or slippage. Most of what I have done has yielded little or no improvement of color alignment. The black is perfectly in position when making copies or prints, each successive color is further out of place. It seems too uniform and repeatable to be something slipping. And, each color is almost perfectly spaced between the black lines. The yellow is the same distance from the black as the magenta is from the yellow, the even spacing makes me think there's something else at work here but no clue what (and fully understand I could be wrong about that hunch).

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]23233[/ATTACH]


                              Getting desperate,
                              Jake
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                              what is that test print # ???

                              it does not resemble a PG6 grid pattern at all ?

                              column gaps are spread to far apart
                              the horizontal lines are spread too far apart

                              Have u removed & inspected the Pattern Reader Unit
                              most important !!!!!!!!!!!!
                              see pdf---
                              Pattern Reader Unit.pdf







                              PG 6.JPG


                              do u have the original P PRINT settings printed out

                              post a PG10 TEST PRINT --
                              pg10.JPGcorrect alignment

                              off alignment example-PG10_view.JPG


                              I want to see how the COLORS line up in SUB-SCAN Direction

                              SUB SCAN.JPG
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                              • Jake292
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                                #30
                                Re: iR-c3200 - Colors out of alignment.

                                Believe it or not that was PG6! Ended up clearing dc-con out of pure desperation and that took care of it. I don't know how this problem started but, glad it's over. Thank you all for the expertise you all gave so freely; finding this thread/forum really helped me more than I can say.

                                Jake

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