canon ir 3200 : yellow toner cartrige not detect

[redzx]

hello my fren..
i'm in trouble now.. my canon ir 3220 cannot detect yellow cartrige after i refill them..
what should i do?

also.. shown massage : black copying is possible

[hknwbec]

is it only refill toner, what kind of toner you used. compitable or orginal
have you change the new related toner chip set

[redzx]

hurm.. i think i buy an compitible one..
n the chip set i'm not change it

[teckat]

hurm.. i think i buy an compitible one..
n the chip set i'm not change it

CHECK_Sensor PS1 toner feed-screw rotation sensor detects the rotation of the feed-screw inside
(Y) the toner container (Y).

Another Check>
NOTE: It is recommended the machine be in a ready to copy condition before trying to run the motors.
remove each color toner cartridge /and with a pair of needle noise pliers turn the toner auger sleeves located on the rear of the toner cartridge clockwise. The auger should turn with a slight resistance, if it hesitates, possible broken auger or the toner is clumped in the cartridge. Replace cartridge

Yellow motor check=
* Enter service mode -Copier/Function/Part-Chk

* Open the front door of the copier and remove the toner cartridge of the motor you want to test.
* Cheat the door interlock, (making sure the switch is fully activated, the machine will not cycle through initialization).
COPIER>FUNCTION>MTR
select #2 for M20 Yellow motor
* Select Mtr and input the number of the toner supply motor you want to check, then press OK.

* Select Mtr On and press OK, the motor should run for approximately 10 seconds.
IMPORTANT: To check the operation of another toner supply motor you must remove the door interlock, pull the cartridge of the motor you want to check next, then reinstall the door interlock and follow the procedure again. Failure to remove the interlock prior to pulling the next toner cartridge will result in the motor operation not being performed.

[teckat]

is it only refill toner, what kind of toner you used. compitable or orginal
have you change the new related toner chip set

there is no chip set in 3200 Toner Cartridges/ there is a /Sensor PS1 toner feed-screw rotation sensor detects the rotation of the feed-screw inside
the toner container (Y).

[teckat]

iR3200 Drum Cam.jpg

Check Inside 3200/3220 unit/ all those lower white pieces must be in place/ the e-ring/ & pin behind them can pop off/out

[blazebusiness]

I also thought Tekcat was correct that there was no chip but hey....Live and Learn - Actually-there is a chip I'm told. Here is a listing from one reseller :

http://refillbay.com/product/laser-toner-refill-kit-for-canon-clc-3200-imagerunner-c2620-c3200-c3220-with-chip-magenta.php?ref=FGL

If that's the case - your problem certainly is that you did not replace the chip. Replace it and be done with your problem.

P.S. I hate refills for the most part & use OEM(nothing works better) when I can. The seller that sold you that aftermarket toner should have warned you about the need for a chip.

Here is how most chips based toners work-----When you insert a toner that has a chip -The copier or printer blows the chip & continues printing untill the copier registers that it needs that toner again. Then it will then look for a chip on a new cartridge and blow that new chip & continue to function untill it recieves a toner out message again. If you refill the cartridge after the copier or printer detects the need for toner it will not work unless you rechip. If you refill a cartridge before the copier or printer detects that it needs toner- no chip is needed as the machine only requires input from that chip after it thinks its out of toner. Hope this was helpful!

[hknwbec]

I agree with you that using OEM product is not reliable, unless you have a reliable supplier and manufacturer. I had replaced 1 set upper and lower roller. after running 5000 copier, I had an unthinkable fact . you can look at the photo as attached.

Broken Roller Photo.jpg
When will I use the chip set. When I found the total weight of orginal toner cartridge is around 550 - 600gm, I will pout it out and put it in the bottle. When we store up to 500 - 550gm, I will refill the cartridge and then replace the chip set. Why we don't order the new cartridge,because we can fully use the toner . We don't sale toner cartridge as our customer base on meter charge.This method is only for service used and I don't agree for sales.

[teckat]

I also thought Tekcat was correct that there was no chip but hey....Live and Learn - Actually-there is a chip I'm told. Here is a listing from one reseller :

Laser Toner Refill for Canon CLC-3200 / imageRUNNER C2620 / C3200 / C3220 with Chip - Uni-Kit Toner Refill Kit :. Catalog :. Refill Bay

If that's the case - your problem certainly is that you did not replace the chip. Replace it and be done with your problem.

P.S. I hate refills for the most part & use OEM(nothing works better) when I can. The seller that sold you that aftermarket toner should have warned you about the need for a chip.

Here is how most chips based toners work-----When you insert a toner that has a chip -The copier or printer blows the chip & continues printing untill the copier registers that it needs that toner again. Then it will then look for a chip on a new cartridge and blow that new chip & continue to function untill it recieves a toner out message again. If you refill the cartridge after the copier or printer detects the need for toner it will not work unless you rechip. If you refill a cartridge before the copier or printer detects that it needs toner- no chip is needed as the machine only requires input from that chip after it thinks its out of toner. Hope this was helpful!

Boy I'm getting Old/ thanks for keeping me on my toes

Your right, I forgot about that 3200/3220/2620 / ADD Toner Cartridge issue , I thought Canon addressed this issue from customer complaints a few years ago with a Firmware issue & and not posted about it.


From Old Paper Work
New toner container needed
• if the number of rotations made by the toner feed-screw PS1 inside cartridge has reached the
replacement threshold and, in addition, the reading of the ATR sensor is lower than a
specific value= The toner container is identified as having reached the end of its life.

[teckat]

I also thought Tekcat was correct that there was no chip but hey....Live and Learn - Actually-there is a chip I'm told. Here is a listing from one reseller :

Laser Toner Refill for Canon CLC-3200 / imageRUNNER C2620 / C3200 / C3220 with Chip - Uni-Kit Toner Refill Kit :. Catalog :. Refill Bay

If that's the case - your problem certainly is that you did not replace the chip. Replace it and be done with your problem.

P.S. I hate refills for the most part & use OEM(nothing works better) when I can. The seller that sold you that aftermarket toner should have warned you about the need for a chip.

Here is how most chips based toners work-----When you insert a toner that has a chip -The copier or printer blows the chip & continues printing untill the copier registers that it needs that toner again. Then it will then look for a chip on a new cartridge and blow that new chip & continue to function untill it recieves a toner out message again. If you refill the cartridge after the copier or printer detects the need for toner it will not work unless you rechip. If you refill a cartridge before the copier or printer detects that it needs toner- no chip is needed as the machine only requires input from that chip after it thinks its out of toner. Hope this was helpful!

Boy I'm getting Old/ thanks for keeping me on my toes

Your right, I forgot about that 3200/3220/2620 / ADD Toner Cartridge issue , I thought Canon addressed this issue from customer complaints a few years ago with a Firmware issue & and not posted about it.


From Old Paper Work
New toner container needed
• if the number of rotations made by the toner feed-screw PS1 inside cartridge has reached the
replacement threshold and, in addition, the reading of the ATR sensor is lower than a
specific value= The toner container is identified as having reached the end of its life.

[blazebusiness]

Glad to keep you on your toes----you certainly keep me on mine-Blaze

[redzx]

thanks 4 all.. i'm very appreciate
i'm already change yellow cartrige chip.. and it's work..

[redzx]

but now.. sometimes its shown the new code.. E000020-01cd... what that mean?

[hknwbec]

Using OEM Toner will creat an unthinkable problem. Supplier is very important.
According your service code E020-01cd, it means there is a fault associated with the drum/developer. 01 means happen on Yellow Drum Unit. I am not sure what is cd means. If show C0 its means the supply of toner for the toner container to the developing assembly is faulty. The developing assembly is supplied with toner excessively. The ATR sensor has an open circuit.

You may try to contact your toner supplier and ask how are they fix this problem or waiting for someone here to give you valuable advice.

[teckat]

but now.. sometimes its shown the new code.. E000020-01cd... what that mean?

E020-01Cx
Trouble in the supply of the toner from the toner cartridge to the
developer. Too much toner is supplied to the developer. Broken or
disconnected wire in the ATR sensor.

You may now have a contaminated YELLOW DRUM UNIT

Refilling is a risky issue