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  • cweber0531
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 71

    #1

    Canon IRC4080 E00007-0001

    I don't have the SM for this model. Is this error fixing assembly or transfer belt? Thanks in advance for any responses.
  • android790
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jul 2010
    • 63

    #2
    Displacement of top fuser belt. If the belts are in good shape u can recal them. Every time i had that code I had to replace the fuser. But it never hurts to inspect.
    Yes, I am here to fix your machine. No, your machine went out of warranty 18 years ago.

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    • teckat
      Field Supervisor

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      10,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 16092

      #3
      Originally posted by cweber0531
      I don't have the SM for this model. Is this error fixing assembly or transfer belt? Thanks in advance for any responses.

      U need to remove unit to inspect /belt position/ and for broken teeth on small brown gears

      Fixing Unit_TP07-168.pdf
      E007 TP07-1.pdf
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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      • SCREWTAPE
        East Coast Imaging

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        2,500+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 3396

        #4
        After replacing it. Its always good to have the machine up to date with firmware.

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        • zoraldinho
          teacher-guide-expert-guru

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          • Mar 2008
          • 4975

          #5
          I hope you dont have contract with customer.
          Practice makes perfect
          If it ain't broke, don't fix it
          A picture is worth a thousand words
          If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself

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          • teckat
            Field Supervisor

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            • Jan 2010
            • 16092

            #6
            Originally posted by zoraldinho
            I hope you dont have contract with customer.

            explain that please,

            either way,contract or not machine needs to be fixed
            **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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            • mrfixit51
              Lead Service Technician

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2008
              • 1975

              #7
              Originally posted by zoraldinho
              I hope you dont have contract with customer.
              Either the contract eats the cost of a fuser, or the customer does,,, at any rate, the copier will not be fixed without that cost being offset by someone...
              "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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              • Fer
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Nov 2009
                • 267

                #8
                Remove the fixing unit with the drive assy (motor) attached and place on the level workplace. rotate the drive motor and while the belts are moving around visually inspect the belts for damages or tears.

                If they are undamaged u can move them back to center position by moving the belt up or down with the displacement mechanism next to the motor. U can turn the displacement gears with a flat blade screwdriver and them keep rotating the belt until its in center position.

                If the machine warms up fine, u can run Copier, Function, Fixing, UHP-S and LHP-S. To test and recalibrate the belts.

                If the are above 250000 i toss em anyway, problem will come back within several thousand prints.

                Af

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                • SCREWTAPE
                  East Coast Imaging

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                  • Jan 2009
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fer
                  Remove the fixing unit with the drive assy (motor) attached and place on the level workplace. rotate the drive motor and while the belts are moving around visually inspect the belts for damages or tears.

                  If they are undamaged u can move them back to center position by moving the belt up or down with the displacement mechanism next to the motor. U can turn the displacement gears with a flat blade screwdriver and them keep rotating the belt until its in center position.

                  If the are above 250000 i toss em anyway, problem will come back within several thousand prints.
                  Nicely explained..

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                  • teckat
                    Field Supervisor

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                    • Jan 2010
                    • 16092

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fer
                    Remove the fixing unit with the drive assy (motor) attached and place on the level workplace. rotate the drive motor and while the belts are moving around visually inspect the belts for damages or tears.

                    If they are undamaged u can move them back to center position by moving the belt up or down with the displacement mechanism next to the motor. U can turn the displacement gears with a flat blade screwdriver and them keep rotating the belt until its in center position.

                    If the machine warms up fine, u can run Copier, Function, Fixing, UHP-S and LHP-S. To test and recalibrate the belts.

                    If the are above 250000 i toss em anyway, problem will come back within several thousand prints.

                    Af

                    I already posted two Pdf's for poster to view and inspect on the Fixin Unit
                    /all procedures related to unit are in there
                    that belt position work around, only works if the inside of belt is not damaged/ the pealing of the inside metal roller surface, (which is caused by the unprotected face of the thermoswitch) as it bunches up causes the belt to drift out of position


                    u never should run a UHP-S/ LHP-S ON A used/old Fix UNIT
                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • Fer
                      Trusted Tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 267

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teckat

                      I already posted two Pdf's for poster to view and inspect on the Fixin Unit
                      /all procedures related to unit are in there
                      that belt position work around, only works if the inside of belt is not damaged/ the pealing of the inside metal roller surface, (which is caused by the unprotected face of the thermoswitch) as it bunches up causes the belt to drift out of position
                      I'm basicly telling that, only recalibrate still fresh and undamaged belts.

                      u never should run a UHP-S/ LHP-S ON A used/old Fix UNIT
                      Can u explain why, because the manual only says that u are resetting the fixing lifetime measurement. (i don;t mean durable counters). But the measurement routine causing "replace fixing unit, call service technician" or E008. Which we ussualy ignore or hide the message (FX-MSG-SW)

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                      • teckat
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fer
                        I'm basicly telling that, only recalibrate still fresh and undamaged belts.


                        Can u explain why, because the manual only says that u are resetting the fixing lifetime measurement. (i don;t mean durable counters). But the measurement routine causing "replace fixing unit, call service technician" or E008. Which we ussualy ignore or hide the message (FX-MSG-SW)

                        it is not a good practice to hide that message on these models/
                        I have all techs maintain an volume inspection sheet for these fixin units/ three copies> 1.at machine/2.with customer/& 3.one kept by service person,


                        Be sure not to execute the mode>
                        COPIER > FUNCTION > FIXNG > FX-UHP-S
                        > FX-LHP-S >
                        except at the installation and the fixing unit replacement.

                        In doing so , an error message may not be displayed when the fixing unit reaches to its life.


                        we had over 250 machines of this series model in the field at one time/ we learned how to handle and what to look for /and what to replace at specific times/ rough in beginning- but our program has been a success
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                        • Fer
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 267

                          #13
                          I admire you high level of service, i guess u got allot of happy customers this way. To bad that level is not much appreciated here. Let the fixing run until they break or E007 to keep costs down.

                          Maybe our customers are closer to to eachother, we can have a broken down machine up within 4-6 hours normaly, it's acceptable for them.

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                          • teckat
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                            • Jan 2010
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                            #14
                            not in the NYC enviorment , every minute of down time is lost money ,
                            with mostly Full Parts & Service contracts>u need to anticipate trouble before it happens .


                            it's costly to maintain the replacement parts in inventory, once u purchase them they are yours with no return.
                            that's why good record keeping on said models is essential for your bottom line


                            good luck
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                            • Fer
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 267

                              #15
                              Here in europe FM2-3779 is refurbished in Germany (Giessen). Personaly i think those are crap, tear early, E13 and they refuse to put new gears in.

                              What kind are u using overseas?

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